SSMS2 ?

[DenisFerrari]

SSMS2 is gone. Finished.

[Mogget]

I am not convinced that it is "gone". Surely someone would let us know if that were the case? Nevertheless, a simple statement describing the current state of SSMS2 development would be appreciated. Total silence is never a good policy.

[vinny002]

Guys, please don't be so negative about the SSMS2 is not coming out. Let's be positive, the SSMS2 will be out eventually. Patience, please. Thanks!

                 Cheers,
             Vincent

[MECO]

I am not convinced that it is "gone". Surely someone would let us know if that were the case? Nevertheless, a simple statement describing the current state of SSMS2 development would be appreciated. Total silence is never a good policy.

Either afraid of the backlash, or they're not willing to answer all the questions that the community would invariably ask following any such announcement.

Personally I'd just prefer to know one way or another so I know if I can finally stop checking this forum every day in the vain hope of news.

I was really pleased to catch the tail end of this fantastically helpful community whilst still learning the skills to complete SSMS2007. I was looking forward to starting my SSMS2 career surrounded by the same helpful people however with NO news on SSMS2 in months, I can't help but feel Exciting Simulations will slowly lose their once loyal and very niche community.

Sad times

[Mogget]

Yes, it's a shame that nobody can be bothered to actually tell us anything. Quite what Cthulhus was on about when he stated "good news are on the way" on June 12 last year is anyone's guess. I assume that the "good news" took a wrong turn, and ended up on a one way trip out of the Solar System.

[Moonwalker]

Yes, it's a shame that nobody can be bothered to actually tell us anything. Quite what Cthulhus was on about when he stated "good news are on the way" on June 12 last year is anyone's guess. I assume that the "good news" took a wrong turn, and ended up on a one way trip out of the Solar System.

I think that something happened to the admin, who, I guess, is (was?) the "CEO". He suddenly didn't post anymore. And that was the beginning of the silence...

edit: a halt or delay of development due to "unforeseen" events either points to illness/accident (or even case of death), or to disputes.

[Mogget]

That doesn't stop someone posting a simple message regarding the current state of SSMS2 development.

[DenisFerrari]

Quite clear : total silence sine 1.5 years, SSMS2 is gone, no one is working anymore on the project. Gone.

Sad.
 

[christra]

Quite clear : total silence sine 1.5 years, SSMS2 is gone, no one is working anymore on the project. Gone.

Sad.
 

What did I say here?
http://www.space-shuttle-mission.com/forum/index.php?topic=4938.msg38117#msg38117

And still a small group here doesn't stop whining. Is there a competition going on about who is writing the most bad comments?

The status of SSM2 hasn't changed. Therefore there is no reason to tell more. Any moaning or writing negative comments won't change or accelerate anything. You'll get informed when there is more.

Thank you.

[Jack Ryan]

Quite clear : total silence sine 1.5 years, SSMS2 is gone, no one is working anymore on the project. Gone.

Sad.
 

What did I say here?
http://www.space-shuttle-mission.com/forum/index.php?topic=4938.msg38117#msg38117

And still a small group here doesn't stop whining. Is there a competition going on about who is writing the most bad comments?

The status of SSM2 hasn't changed. Therefore there is no reason to tell more. Any moaning or writing negative comments won't change or accelerate anything. You'll get informed when there is more.

Thank you.

This is insulting against your loyal customers. Back in june there should be news and now we are in january and no one heard anything. If anyone responsible of the project tells us that the project is not dead why should we think otherwise?

Even a bad news is better than anything, and a little bit of honesty too.

[christra]

Quite clear : total silence sine 1.5 years, SSMS2 is gone, no one is working anymore on the project. Gone.

Sad.
 

What did I say here?
http://www.space-shuttle-mission.com/forum/index.php?topic=4938.msg38117#msg38117

And still a small group here doesn't stop whining. Is there a competition going on about who is writing the most bad comments?

The status of SSM2 hasn't changed. Therefore there is no reason to tell more. Any moaning or writing negative comments won't change or accelerate anything. You'll get informed when there is more.

Thank you.

This is insulting against your loyal customers. Back in june there should be news and now we are in january and no one heard anything. If anyone responsible of the project tells us that the project is not dead why should we think otherwise?

Even a bad news is better than anything, and a little bit of honesty too.

??
Where am I not honest? I told you in August last year what is going on and I repeat now, work is still in progress. I am not responsible for the project and all I can do is forward this information.
BTW, there are no customers of SSM2, only SSMS 2007, which is still running fine I think. 

[MECO]

I think we need to differentiate between the actions of the moderators and the INactions of Exciting Simulations.

Christra, please don't take all of this as a personal attack. I'm sure we're all aware that you do not work as a developer, and all fully accept that you can only pass on news that you've been given yourself. Appreciate that if you have no news, you have nothing to pass on.

What we are trying to convey to Exciting Simulations however, is that it is doubtful the community will hang on indefinitely with no news at all. If there is any way to feedback to the developers how toxic their current lack of communication is to their customer-base, I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated. A quick check of both Facebook and Twitter, they haven't been "active" in quite some time.

Unfortunately "no news" posts don't classify as updates... Whilst you point out that there are "no customers of SSMS2", we are all still prospective customers, and Exciting Simulations will need a customer-base to ensure SSMS2 is profitable upon release.

Loads of games now-a-days are selling games in an "alpha" state to the general public, and they in turn help iron out bugs along the way. They're doing great, and the community is thriving... There's already so much hype and excitement about these types of games, and they haven't even been released yet! Quite unlike this one as it stands. It's sad to see because this community was great.

Please, please, PLEASE Exciting Simulations, do not take your customers for granted. This is a niche simulator sure, however customers can be more easily lost than gained when mistreated.

I've tried to make this post as "neutral" as possible so no offence is taken

[Moonwalker]

I think we need to differentiate between the actions of the moderators and the INactions of Exciting Simulations.

Yes.

The last official news regarding SSM2 was posted by the admin more than two years ago. And he doesn't seem to visit these forums anymore.

Not a single word of what is going on, except "unforeseen events". We are supposed to believe that everything is fine and that we just have to be patient, with no significant news for years. And if we respond to the silence and lack of communication, the moderators feel offended and don't respond anymore.

Everything else we might get from a crystal ball...

[Moonwalker]

By the way: happy new year

We didn't even get that one...

[mborgia]

It is unfortunate.  Another sim I've been waiting a long time on is the new ATC simulator "Tower Cab."  The sim, designed by a single programmer, is more than fifteen months past its targeted release date.  But the developer tells his audience at frequent intervals what is going on and why.  New images of the product development come every day, no matter how late the product is, giving his customers hope that the sim will someday be released.  Exciting Simulations last gave us a peak two and a half years ago. 

I would hope soon that Exciting Simulations will at least grant developers the right and ability to create the remaining missions for sale as service packs.  Then at least that sim can finally come to its full potential.