SSMS2 ?

[vinny002]

Hi, guys!

I forgot to mention. Happy New Years to all of you! 2014 is going to be a great year!

              Cheers,
           Vincent

[Moonwalker]

Hi, guys!

I forgot to mention. Happy New Years to all of you!

Thanks

2014 is going to be a great year!

Personally, yes. But regarding SSM2 I have my concerns...

However, I might get a new copy off SSM2007 this year, as soon as I got a new (valuable) USB stick (which will hopefully last longer than my old ones...). Still a lot of things to do in SSM2007. And I'm also going to fly a lot this year with my PMDG 737 NGX

[ALT326]

Christra I must agree with Jack on this one. There was a comment about "good news on the way". I think you shouldn't make any of those comments if there is no news at all.

And another thing, if you post eye candy then people expect something from the developer and that is not a complete radio silence for over a year.

What you guys need the most is some communication expert.

That being said, I'm still happy with SSM2007 and I will enjoy it no matter what. And I'm checking in on a regular basis to see if there is some sort of news about the next SSM. So keep up the good programming work but also work on you contact with your (future) costumers.

[christra]

Christra I must agree with Jack on this one. There was a comment about "good news on the way". I think you shouldn't make any of those comments if there is no news at all.

And another thing, if you post eye candy then people expect something from the developer and that is not a complete radio silence for over a year.

What you guys need the most is some communication expert.

That being said, I'm still happy with SSM2007 and I will enjoy it no matter what. And I'm checking in on a regular basis to see if there is some sort of news about the next SSM. So keep up the good programming work but also work on you contact with your (future) costumers.

Did I post that comment? Did I post eyecandy? I did not.

You say 'There was "a" comment...' and you say '... "you" shouldn't make such comments...'

Again, I did neither of them. So please don't blame me for something I did not.

The delay has a reason that I am not allowed to talk about because of its private nature. And it will take as long as it needs. I cannot accelerate it. The comments here won't accelerate it neither. But there is work in progress.

As long as there are no news worth to be posted there will not be anything posted. But some simply don't want to hear that or do not understand it, whatever. I accept the desire to get some news but there is nothing I can do.
I have to remain patient just like anybody else here. Quite simple.

Thanks.

[Jack Ryan]

Good news are on the way, please stay tuned !

That is what I call disrespectful Christra. I don't want you to be offended because clearly you don't have anything to do with that, but it's still quite annoying the fact that more than 6 months already passed

[Moonwalker]

The delay has a reason that I am not allowed to talk about because of its private nature. And it will take as long as it needs. I cannot accelerate it. The comments here won't accelerate it neither.

I don't think that the community wants to accelerate it first and foremost. We just want a few informations/news. Because if there would be work in progress as you say, there should be informations/news after month and years. But since there aren't any news, we can only assume there is barely any true progress.

The problem here is what I said before and what can be read in your latest comment again: you are not allowed to talk. And that's not a good communication policy. We all know something is wrong, but someone decided to leave the community out in the rain.

I doubt that meanwhile anyone here still believes that there is a progress. And that's not because we are impatient or mean. It's because communication ceased.

[christra]

Ok, I am out.

I don't comment on this anymore.

That's it.

[MECO]

Ok, I am out.

I don't comment on this anymore.

That's it.

Forgive me for saying so Christra, but you're taking all of this FAR too personally. Yes some people have called you out for saying stuff that you haven't, and that's only misinformation on their part.

Credit to you for being one of the only mods to continue to contribute.

We can surmise that whatever happened is bad, and has caused an unavoidably delay, but the single thing that I would like to emphasise across all this SSMS2 nonsense is that the developer's communication policy leaves a lot to be desired.

They should not be using you as middle-men to relay communication. Any dev worth their salt would have direct communication with their customers. THIS is what "the community" would like to see rectified before they see their would-be customer start to give up and leave.

I don't think I'm going to bother saying any more on the matter to be honest, but I personally would like this fed back to the developers.

We'd all like to see this released, but communication black-out is commercial suicide

[Mogget]

I agree, MECO. It isn't fair that Christra, Cthulhus and other moderators should take the flak for this. It makes me wonder what on Earth is happening that is stopping Exciting Simulations from posting a simple update. It isn't so much a progress update as a "situation" update that everyone is looking for here. When there has been no comment from the development team for two years, is it any wonder that enthusiastic past and/or future customers start asking serious questions?

I apologise to Christra if he feels that anyone here has singled him out for the firing squad. Our frustration is not aimed at you. Trust me, as a person who answers phone calls all day for a roofing company, I know the feeling of being used as a target simply because I am the only person that the customer can speak to at the time!

[Nats]

Jesus you guys.... lighten up for goodness sake. the poor mod has had to put up with your whining for years on end.

If the project is delayed but still being worked on it could mean anything from a serious illness or a personal bereavement as much as being sued by one of the shuttle collaborators for using their products without legal permission. Could be anything. They could be working on the game one hour a month or several days a week. there could be a dedicated team of several or one bloke doing everything.

Whining on here aint going to make a damn bit of difference. The project will be completed when its completed and it will be released when its ready, if ever. And you will all buy it then if you are still alive by then lol!

But in the meantime go play Kerbal Space Program, Buzz Aldrins Space Program Manager, Take On Mars or Elite Dangerous or something else and forget about this project until you see news of it on Space Sim Central or whatever. This forum really is only still here because SSMS07 is still a live game. So if you dont have anything to discuss regarding that game go away and get a life elsewhere.

And stop bugging the mod for information or trying to pressure him into revealing something he obviously cant and is never going to. Please let it lie.

[vinny002]

Hi, guys!

I got plenty of space sims such as the A-OK the wings of mercury, space engine, and or-biter to play while I'm waiting for the SSMS2 to be released.

               Cheers,
            Vincent

[Moonwalker]

Jesus you guys.... lighten up for goodness sake. the poor mod has had to put up with your whining for years on end.

If the project is delayed but still being worked on it could mean anything from a serious illness or a personal bereavement as much as being sued by one of the shuttle collaborators for using their products without legal permission. Could be anything. They could be working on the game one hour a month or several days a week. there could be a dedicated team of several or one bloke doing everything.

Whining on here aint going to make a damn bit of difference. The project will be completed when its completed and it will be released when its ready, if ever. And you will all buy it then if you are still alive by then lol!

But in the meantime go play Kerbal Space Program, Buzz Aldrins Space Program Manager, Take On Mars or Elite Dangerous or something else and forget about this project until you see news of it on Space Sim Central or whatever. This forum really is only still here because SSMS07 is still a live game. So if you dont have anything to discuss regarding that game go away and get a life elsewhere.

And stop bugging the mod for information or trying to pressure him into revealing something he obviously cant and is never going to. Please let it lie.

The problem neither is the mod nor the question when SSM2 will be released. The question is if there is a progress at all and if SSM2 will be released at all, since Exciting Simulations decided to stop communication and not informing its customers anymore of what's going on. So it is understandable that people start speculating and become disappointed. One can't decide not to give any information anymore and expect that people remain quite and patient for years without worrying what's going on. That's a bad communication policy.

There aren't any updates for SSM2007 anymore for almost 4 years. Again: 4 years. And no news regarding progress of SSM2 for 2 years.

If there is a progress, where it is? And if there is a progress which is that slow that there are no news for years, there is barely a progress which makes SSM2 vaporware as long as there are no news. It is as simple as that.

[ALT326]

Christra,

Indeed you personally did not made such comments or put the eyecandy on. But you are a moderator so in some sort you are a representative of the company. As put before do not take it personal.

[Mogget]

With hindsight, it's possible that Cthulhus simply meant that we will all be very happy with SSMS2 when it finally arrives (as opposed to any progress updates being imminent). It's very easy to misunderstand someone's comments on the internet, so I am quite happy to accept that

[MECO]

....But you are a moderator so in some sort you are a representative of the company...

Incorrect. As far as I know, the moderators have no affiliation with Exciting Simulations in the slightest aside from being lucky enough to receive alpha releases of the product for testing.