progress of SSMS 2

[DenisFerrari]

Sure, 2 years with no updaes, almost one year with nonew shots about SSMS2...forum, obviously, is getting completely silent ad dead...and all that means nothing good...

So strange...but I'm quite convinced that new.product release is well far.away in the future...far for now.

...and its a great pity also not to have received any more SSMS in the meanwhile...

[christra]

Sure, 2 years with no updaes, almost one year with nonew shots about SSMS2...forum, obviously, is getting completely silent ad dead...and all that means nothing good...

So strange...but I'm quite convinced that new.product release is well far.away in the future...far for now.

...and its a great pity also not to have received any more SSMS in the meanwhile...

Sometimes something between heaven and earth occurs that forces somebody to delay a development. That is not identical with a complete stop. It is a delay and nothing else. 

[DenisFerrari]

We'll see then 

[vinny002]

Hi, DenisFerrari!

Please don't worry! The new SSMS 2 will be released eventually! Like what Christra said the development is very slow right now, and it is not the same as the development come to a halt! Please keep it cool! Thanks!

               Cheers,
            Vincent

[DenisFerrari]

Roger all Huston!

...only time and patience will give us the answer 

[Moonwalker]

Sometimes something between heaven and earth occurs that forces somebody to delay a development.

I don't think it's a good strategy to stave off customers with mysterious explanations. Usually something like this means the end. I only hope that it will be different for this product, but which is not being continued for two years now.

[Moonwalker]

That is not identical with a complete stop. It is a delay and nothing else. 

We sadly can't validate that claim since we did not get any preview for one year now.

The only obvious fact is that this product is on a complete stop for two and a half years now. The latest features pack was released in April 2010. And if we consider that version 2 initially was called SSM2010, SSM2 actually is three years late already without any news for one year.

[MECO]

Guys,

I think we've hammered this point home enough already. I think they get it... We're disappointed there's a delay to the release of SSMS2. For whatever reasons they don't feel they can categorically say what has happened to cause such a delay. If the dev team still says the project is a go then you can either choose to believe them or not. Personally? I believe them, but I don't think we'll see this any time soon.

When it is released, my hands will be going in my pockets quicker than you can say "we have main engine start"

I propose enough is enough and we leave this thread to some actual news

[DenisFerrari]

Forum is almost void, silent and empty...2 years with no updates and more than 1 year without amy news about SSMS2 is enough to much such a great forum to die.

A real pity.

[MECO]

Forum is almost void, silent and empty...2 years with no updates and more than 1 year without amy news about SSMS2 is enough to much such a great forum to die.

A real pity.

I personally think that you're just "doomsaying" now. The activity on the forums and the "community" are what "we, the community" makes of it. Are there still people playing 2007? Apparently so. Are there people playing with valid questions that need some guidance? Yes, apparently so. As a veteran then, feel free to offer some insight otherwise how is anyone new to the sim supposed to pick up the skills?

I know I'd still be on the launch pad if it weren't for uri_ba's video tutorials and this forum - so lets keep that spirit alive

[christra]

That is not identical with a complete stop. It is a delay and nothing else. 

We sadly can't validate that claim since we did not get any preview for one year now.

Well, you are free to believe whatever you want.

The only obvious fact is that this product is on a complete stop for two and a half years now. The latest features pack was released in April 2010. And if we consider that version 2 initially was called SSM2010, SSM2 actually is three years late already without any news for one year.

SSM2007 runs fine and I think there won't be any further updates just as other simulators after some time.
SSM2 still needs some work and the team is working on it.
The designation "SSM2010" was chosen because of the first intention to release it at the end of 2010. The features of SSM2 will go beyond SSM2010. So if MY calculations are right we are not even two years behind.

[vinny002]

Hi, guys!

I'm still using SSM2007! Like I said, Please do not worry, the new SSMS 2 will be released when it's finished! Thanks!

            Cheers,
        Vincent

[DenisFerrari]

Hi, guys!

I'm still using SSM2007! Like I said, Please do not worry, the new SSMS 2 will be released when it's finished! Thanks!

            Cheers,
        Vincent

... ...that is to say : it will be released when it will be released  joking.

Anyway, lets hope release will definitely be soon.

Denis

[Moonwalker]

That is not identical with a complete stop. It is a delay and nothing else. 

We sadly can't validate that claim since we did not get any preview for one year now.

Well, you are free to believe whatever you want.

The only obvious fact is that this product is on a complete stop for two and a half years now. The latest features pack was released in April 2010. And if we consider that version 2 initially was called SSM2010, SSM2 actually is three years late already without any news for one year.

SSM2007 runs fine and I think there won't be any further updates just as other simulators after some time.

Other simulators are not SSM

SSM is not a product which was "complete" at release, like MS FS for example. SSM was supposed to be a continuing project.

Remember:

Will you release more missions?: Yes, we have already released new missions as free add-ons and we plan to release more missions until we cover most, if not all the historical missions.

http://www.space-shuttle-mission.com/forum/index.php?topic=85.0

But that support has completely stopped two and a half years ago. They had to free up resources for SSM2 development (also stated in the forum). And my assumption is that they overreached themself with that new version i.e. the team seems to be small to get anything ready before it becomes vaporware.

SSM2 still needs some work and the team is working on it.

I really hope so.

The designation "SSM2010" was chosen because of the first intention to release it at the end of 2010. The features of SSM2 will go beyond SSM2010. So if MY calculations are right we are not even two years behind.

Since it won't be released this year very obviously, we can already say that it's two years behind. And as such, whilst there are no news for a year, it sadly has become vaporware (for now). People outside of this forum also call it vaporware already. But this is not an offense. It's just disappointment, caused by those who work on SSM. Because there are no news. Only mysterious excuses like "something between heaven and earth".

If they would say what is going on, or not, and why not, we sure would excuse it and appreciate it. But there are sadly no cards on the table. The customers are left in the dark. We are lead to believe that a slow progress is going on without any single sign

[DenisFerrari]

Moonwalker,
I think you just cantered the point and I 100% agree.

No news, no cards on the table, no screenshots, no cues, NOTHING about SSMS2 since some worrying long time. And to me it just means : vapour, that is just nothing.

...how easy it would be for development team to just copy and paste some new screenshots ??! ... Or giving us some materials ??! Like copy of not definitive SSMS2 manual ??! Or just technical infos ??!...

Well, I think it would be a 10 minutes job for them and that it woul stimulate audience at its best...

Instead, nothing...or even less.

And result is just 50% or more of SSMS are just abandoning...

Still do not understand why all this silence.

Come on development team, just tell us which is the problem and we'll be he happy to understand and wait with a complete different feeling...instead of slightly abandon...