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On Orbit => Space Shuttle Mission Simulator (tm) => Topic started by: Admin on January 08, 2010, 02:07:55 PM
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The Features Pack scheduled for January has a VERY cool feature that's been on our list forever and has been requested by many. What is it? Well, If I tell you this wouldn't be called "teasing", eh? 8)
Beyond that, we'll have some additions to the docking procedure, scenery, etc. etc. It is worth the wait - believe me!
And yes, R&D for SSM2010 is moving on as planned too. More about that when I'm free of NDA - like in about 9-10 months from now, but you never know <g>
/Admin
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ISS interior and ISS RMS ops, I bet.
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ISS interior and ISS RMS ops, I bet.
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Yep, probably ISS interior. Or could it be a mission to Mir? Either of those would be very nice!
I believe our admin is having the time of his life, teasing us AGAIN. :D
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I'm thinking shutdown procedures. :)
However, if I could pick anything I would pick ISS interior as well. Except I'm in the middle of STS-98, and I would just have to redo it! ;D
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LOL A,
You just got me curious :)
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Hmm, you guys are really something. These are MAJOR features you aim for, and they will come, but not within the coming weeks. Think in more reasonable terms ;)
/Admin
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I believe our admin is having the time of his life, teasing us AGAIN. :D
Yeah, /Admin is really having the time of his life - LOL!!!
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Hmmm 3d Virtual Cockpit active switches might be to big of a feature. What about a screenshot feature?
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Let's see here is what i have seen floating around here
ISS Interior, ISS arms, shutdown procedures, better (i.e. realistic) shuttle models and textures, old shuttle avionics for the older missions, 51L and 107, active mid-deck(?), chase planes, MON2 active, and Mir. Oh yea and all of the missions not yet modeled...
Ya'll don't want much do ya? :o
I would be happy with the age appropriate avionics and one Mir mission (preferably STS-71 or 91). The rest falls into the "If I had a million dollars" or "would be nice" columns.
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Hmmm 3d Virtual Cockpit active switches might be to big of a feature. What about a screenshot feature?
PRTSCN -> Open MSPaint -> Edit -> Paste ->Save as...
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Hmm, you guys are really something. These are MAJOR features you aim for, and they will come, but not within the coming weeks. Think in more reasonable terms ;)
/Admin
We're dreamers ;)
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I know how to take a screenshot. I just know some people wanted it implemented into the game.
Also this is a features pack everyone. No Mir Missions
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I am wondering if it is real NASA voice chatter. ???
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I am wondering if it is real NASA voice chatter. ???
NASA voice chatter... That would be "a hint of things to come". You might be on to something here!
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I am wondering if it is real NASA voice chatter. ???
NASA voice chatter... That would be "a hint of things to come". You might be on to something here!
"hint of things to come" is bigger than "NASA chatter", but still, into the future.
/Admin
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Also this is a features pack everyone. No Mir Missions
Correct! You've been paying attention during classes, spaceboy!
/Admin
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Space toilet???? I'm tired of holding it ;D
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External tank inspection would be my next guess. I've tested it out in game, so I know it can implemented with fairly minimal work.
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If Admin said to think in reasonable terms, then my bet is for Monitor 2 activation. It seems to me very reasonable, and really useful.
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I suggest that we will be able to follow SRBs and/or ET after separation till splashdown or desintegration.
Another assumption : an enhanced MCC
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I suggest that we will be able to follow SRBs and/or ET after separation till splashdown or desintegration.
Another assumption : an enhanced MCC
I like that! How about the LCC as well??
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Well, in the old Space Shuttle sim, you could follow the SRB views all the way to splashdown. That would be pretty cool. The super geek in me would love to see VAB roll out to the pad, but that might not be for everyone.
I agree that monitor 2 might come to light. As for a future mission, STS-130 would be my vote.
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I´m hoping its support for multi joystick setups. Be neat to use RHC and THC somehow. That and MON2...
We´ll see
Henrik
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Well hopefully they will get that SRB issue worked out (although I'm, for some reason, are not having that issue though, but its worth mentioning). I would like to see monitor 2 working too. But I'm thinking that maybe they might put my suggestion for OBSS inspection in the game.
Here:
http://www.space-shuttle-mission.com/forum/index.php?topic=2438.msg16249#msg16249 (http://www.space-shuttle-mission.com/forum/index.php?topic=2438.msg16249#msg16249)
and Here:
http://www.space-shuttle-mission.com/forum/index.php?topic=3437.0 (http://www.space-shuttle-mission.com/forum/index.php?topic=3437.0)
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Well hopefully they will get that SRB issue worked out (although I'm, for some reason, are not having that issue though, but its worth mentioning). I would like to see monitor 2 working too. But I'm thinking that maybe they might put my suggestion for OBSS inspection in the game.
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JLM no need to turn this into a suggestion section. We've already have one <g>. And which "SRB issue" are you talking about? If it's a bug, then this is not the place to raise it (again?) Don't you think that bug fixing is a given? I wouldn't tease about a "bug fix". I'm talking about a feature.
/Admin
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Admin has spoken. So let it be written, so let it be done. ;)
Every addition made is welcome and always worth the wait. The best part is that the wait is never that long!
Cheers!
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More important than MON2 or anything really, just now is full support for W7 and something to remedy the absolutely horrible vertical sync. Ive "Upgraded" my computer setup and now i get seasick panning in SSM07.
Heres hoping ;)
Henrik
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LM no need to turn this into a suggestion section. We've already have one <g>. And which "SRB issue" are you talking about? If it's a bug, then this is not the place to raise it (again?) Don't you think that bug fixing is a given? I wouldn't tease about a "bug fix". I'm talking about a feature.
/Admin
SORRY! sheesh! :-[ :-\ >:(
I wasn't coming in here and saying "you better go in and fix that bug or so help me". I know you guys fix the bugs and I thank you for that but I didn't need to be yelled at. :P
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Guys don't forget we are only communicating through typing. You can not tell if someone is really yelling at you. I know that I sometimes come off as yelling in my typing but I am not really.
JLM if he was yelling he would of course used >:( or :P
;)
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I sense a thread coming to a close. :D
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LM no need to turn this into a suggestion section. We've already have one <g>. And which "SRB issue" are you talking about? If it's a bug, then this is not the place to raise it (again?) Don't you think that bug fixing is a given? I wouldn't tease about a "bug fix". I'm talking about a feature.
/Admin
SORRY! sheesh! :-[ :-\ >:(
I wasn't coming in here and saying "you better go in and fix that bug or so help me". I know you guys fix the bugs and I thank you for that but I didn't need to be yelled at. :P
JLM,
Your previous message was saying exactly what you say that you didn't say (did I just say "say" three, wait FOUR times in a row?). There you do ask for a bug fix (apparently) so I think that my feedback was to the point.
But I certainly didn't yell. Usually in written messages THIS IS CALLED "YELLING" ::)
Anyway, this is not the subject for the thread and IMHO you could've contacted me over PM to clarify this non-issue. Let's stick to "teasing". Teasing and trying to discover the next feature is so much more fun. Until now, we've managed to surprise all of you although I remember that in one of the cases, some have come very close.
I can give you a hint: in this case too, some of you here have already named the upcoming feature. Now all you need to do is to figure out which is it <g>.
/Admin
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Now all you need to do is to figure out which is it <g>
AARGGHH
You really enjoy this, right? :D
Well, in time all will be revealed to the worthy....
BRGDS
Sven
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The only feature mentioned here which is mentioned more than once and asked for several times in the past and is not already known as something that comes definitely not in SSM2007 is Mon 2.
And I would love it ;D
I am sure the real astronauts use the second monitor a lot.
/Armin
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+1 Mon2
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So let it be written, so let it be done.
To kill the first born Pharaohs son, I'm Creeping Death!!!!
(Headbanging and general mayhem ensues as Kirk begins the solo!)
Sorry, couldn't resist! I was listening to it as I read that line! :D
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So let it be written, so let it be done.
To kill the first born Pharaohs son, I'm Creeping Death!!!!
(Headbanging and general mayhem ensues as Kirk begins the solo!)
havn't heard that in a few years :)
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Rock on! Bang that head!
To keep with the thread...I'm going to guess that Mon2 will be functional soon! ;)
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That's what I'm thinking..... :)
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Well if we get Mon 2 we need the laptops in the virtual cockpit to be able to completely use the RMS from the cockpit cause in real life they have those. The PMA gets in the way otherwise. ::)
It would be way easier if I had Track-IR ;)
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Maybe Windows 7 compatibility?
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hehehee... Admin sure loves teasing. Now, for my input, AKA 'shooting in the dark'... please excuse me if something sounds like it's more of a suggestion (more like wishful thinking) than just a guess... ^_^;;
MON 2? It may help a bit with RMS ops... but not something I'd be excited about.
ISS interior? That'd be sweet... though I still have severe problems going down the flight deck-mid deck ladder while doing a SPACEHAB mission...
NASA chatter? That'd also be insanely sweet, but I think we can do better than just copy-pasting NASA chatter and actually do great comms ourselves (obviously using NASA chatter as reference)...
Following SRBs to water impact? That'd be cool, and IMHO the feature with the highest possibility to appear, since Ares 1-X was practically about that at the end, so I believe the framework for that's done. And it'd be funny if viewed during the "SRB-abrupt deceleration" bug that occurs after you view the Ares 1-X mission and then start a regular shuttle mission afterwards.
Shutdown procedures? Yes, please. I would love that. ...but then OPS 9 would have to be emulated... so I don't think it's likely. That and the convoy...
Admin said it was mentioned, so I guess hearing the APUs starting and puffing along, the actual sound suppression system blasting water into the trenches at T-15 (and the loud whistling sound associated with it starting at T-15, not at T-9~8), the APUs sound after wheelstop and a lot of other things I'd like will not come for now. T-T;;
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Possible release tomorrow via the twitter from yesterday. My hopes are up
"New beta being prepared (5th). Very likely it's going to be a Release Candidate. Stay tuned."
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Time for more Monty Python teasing to ADMIN and the Developers, IT would be nice!-the features pack that is.
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Waiting for any signs that it might or won't come today. ::)
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Time for more Monty Python teasing to ADMIN and the Developers, IT would be nice!-the features pack that is.
IT is still being tested and we may want to squeeze in a few more features. We'll see :)
/Admin
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So your not scared anymore of the word IT any more?
I'll go galloping around the street with my brother clapping coconuts together! ;D (Yes, I have coconuts for this purpose-I made them myself! :D)
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Ni!
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MON 2? not something I'd be excited about.
ISS interior? That'd be sweet...
Funny, for me it's the other way around. Mon2 would definitely be a really really great enhancement of gameplay.
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MON 2? not something I'd be excited about.
ISS interior? That'd be sweet...
Funny, for me it's the other way around. Mon2 would definitely be a really really great enhancement of gameplay.
I agree. Mon2 adds funtionality, it could definitely help with RMS operations and maybe rendevous.
The ISS's inside would mostly be eyecandy, and it wouldn't really add a shuttle gameplay aspect. If one really wants to see it, there's lots of photos taken over the years and put on the web. ISS inside would be nice though. ;D
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The ISS entry would be the best of eye candy and I would eat it up! I would play make believe and stay in orbit for days! :D
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Ok, after reading and crossing out things before Admin pointed out that they were not within reasonable terms...
Working switches within 3D Virtual Cockpit
Better shuttle textures
Old shuttle avionics for older missions
Active Mid deck
Chase planes
MON2
External Tank inspection
Follow SRB until splashdown
Follow ET until disintegration
Enhanced MCC
LCC
Rollout
Multi-joystick setup
OBSS Inspection
VSync
However, he did mention some of us have mentioned the feature. Out of the above list, the features mentioned at least more than once are...
MON2
Follow SRB until splashdown
It could be any of those two, maybe...
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Im thinking MON 2 plus the 129 mission pack.
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Oh, by the way, remember, this is a feature pack being announced, not a mission pack. there will be no missions whatsoever, no mir, no sts-129, no nothing, just features only. that's why i didn't even mention the missions people mentioned in the list. :P quick heads-up on that.
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That's right features only Sorry.... :)
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When they do make a mission pack, hopefully STS-130 is on it. Tranquility, you know. ...reminds me of someone naming his pet fish Cupola around here. :P
lol... cupola.
Any estimate on this feature pack's launch date?
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Yea STS 129 and 130 would be great missions for the next mission pack.
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Working switches within 3D Virtual Cockpit : imo that's not a "reasonable" change
Better shuttle textures : nobody mentionned it yet
Old shuttle avionics for older missions : imo that's not a "reasonable" change
Active Mid deck : imo that's not a "reasonable" change
Chase planes : imo far from being in their top priorities, but could be wrong
MON2
External Tank inspection
Follow SRB until splashdown
Follow ET until disintegration
Enhanced MCC : planned for 2010 version
LCC
Rollout : imo far from being in their top priorities, but could be wrong
Multi-joystick setup : imo that's not a "reasonable" change
OBSS Inspection
VSync
However, he did mention some of us have mentioned the feature. Out of the above list, the features mentioned at least more than once are...
MON2
Follow SRB until splashdown
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I really fail to understand why "follow SRB until spashdown" is so high on ppl´s wishlist??
- It has zero bearing on a shuttlemission, but would be handy on a "NASA-TV simulator" ...
But hey, every addon to this gem is worth it!!
All the best to You
Henrik
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I really fail to understand why "follow SRB until spashdown" is so high on ppl´s wishlist??
- It has zero bearing on a shuttlemission, but would be handy on a "NASA-TV simulator" ...
Agreed. The goal is going into orbit. Not into the ocean.
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Whatever the answer is, /Admin will have succeeded in creating a highly successful thread :)
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Abut the SRB thing, I agree too. I just mention that since it's already done with Ares 1-X, it's pretty easy to implement on the rest of the STS missions. It's mostly eye candy, though. MON2 seems to be even more likely to be the upcoming feature... might be wrong.
Yup. pretty popular thread. Hahaha
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I really fail to understand why "follow SRB until spashdown" is so high on ppl´s wishlist??
- It has zero bearing on a shuttlemission, but would be handy on a "NASA-TV simulator" ...
But hey, every addon to this gem is worth it!!
All the best to You
Henrik
Agreed, but don't underestimate the power of "eye candy" ;)
/Admin
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Well, for a proper flight simulation, eye candy is as important as systems simulation and procedures simulation as well. If it is not important that the SRB's can be seen during return to the surface for example, then it wouldn't also be important to see anything outside, i.e. remove the entire external view capabilities for those who don't care about eye candy. Just implement the interior views and window views, systems and procedures, and that's it.
A flight simulation for personal computers should always try to provide as much features as possible for both, systems/procedures and eye candy stuff. Even the old "Shuttle"-sim by Virgin, 18 years ago, already did show the entire rollout to the pad and the SRBs returning to earth for example. So why should that not be available in a simulation in the 21th century? The argument that eye candy just is eye candy did never make any sense to me, especially in relation to flight simming. It is an argument by users who either are unwilling to update their hardware for some years, or who are rather casual users in my point of view. But mostly it's the fear of performance loss, which is not the problem of developers or the majority who wants all the visible stuff ;)
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Well, for a proper flight simulation, eye candy is as important as systems simulation and procedures simulation as well. If it is not important that the SRB's can be seen during return to the surface for example, then it wouldn't also be important to see anything outside, i.e. remove the entire external view capabilities for those who don't care about eye candy. Just implement the interior views and window views, systems and procedures, and that's it.
A flight simulation for personal computers should always try to provide as much features as possible for both, systems/procedures and eye candy stuff. Even the old "Shuttle"-sim by Virgin, 18 years ago, already did show the entire rollout to the pad and the SRBs returning to earth for example. So why should that not be available in a simulation in the 21th century? The argument that eye candy just is eye candy did never make any sense to me, especially in relation to flight simming. It is an argument by users who either are unwilling to update their hardware for some years, or who are rather casual users in my point of view. But mostly it's the fear of performance loss, which is not the problem of developers or the majority who wants all the visible stuff ;)
Good point. Good indeed.
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The new features pack is out! Some of you were spot on with their guesses! You're getting better at this so I have to find something else to torture you with while you wait :D
Have fun guys and gals. I'm firing my copy right now!
/Admin