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On Orbit => Real NASA Space Shuttle Missions => Topic started by: Admin on May 13, 2009, 02:41:05 AM
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Hi all.
Considering that we only have 9 STS launches to go (if plans don't change), I suggest we all make the most of them, and here is how:
For the last 4 launches or so, I had sync-ed SSM2007 to the NASA MET and performed everything from T-1:50 up to MECO in parallel with the real launch. One reason is to verify our model and second reason to simply have fun and "feel" a "real" launch.
In order to succeed at this, the ideal setup should consist of two PCs (or one laptop and one PC) - the laptop/weaker PC for the NASATV, real MET and TeamSpeak, and the second, the gaming PC, for running SSM2007.
I don't know how much load can Uri's TS server support, but it could be cool to have several hundred of us online, "launching" together with the real Shuttle while chatting with each other. The culmination of this event can be a "sendoff flight" when all of us can join in the last Shuttle launch next year and accompany the last Shuttle crew on their ride on to orbit.
Imagine that: as the real last Shuttle lifts-off, several hundred (or thousand) virtual Shuttles lift off too all over the world. This experience can be something all of us may remember for a long time.
In order to have this "sendoff flight" perform successfully, we can practice during the next launches and see how we can make this a perfect event.
Any takers?
POLL HERE:
http://www.space-shuttle-mission.com/forum/index.php?topic=3065.0
/Admin
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That would be awesome, I'd be up for it ;D
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Count me in! Me and Uri have been wanting people to join us on the TS so we would be able to discuss the launch and your idea is awesome. ;D
Please note that the TS is as always still up and has a section for STS-125 and anybody can feel free to discuss the mission on there!! ;D
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I havn't tested the TS load capability properly, but according to the free TS license I'm using I can assign up to 1000 slots :)
bandwidth-wise I believe that with a reasonable sound quality (lower then current qual) I can squeeze in about 600-700 slots.
as for RAM&CPU usage, I don't believe we would have problems :)
so I can safely say that we should good for about 100 slots - without any special preps.
I'm not sure about the T-01:50:00 sync, but I'm in :)
Adminm
any chance we would get a special incremental pack for the next launch with the shuttle and correct planed launch time and orbit?. we just need T-01:50:00 to orbit insertion, and we'll get a special "mission badge" for completing the launch sequence :P (we can also record clips and make one crazy community video :))
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I would LOVE that although I am not sure about next launch as tomorrow I am going to attempt LTT tickets so I will know tomorrow. But that would be cool if Ground Crew could implement it with very little hassle. :)
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Its a brilliant idea Admin. I dont whether I can join in, it all depends on when the next batch of launches are planned for.
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Count me in! Me and Uri have been wanting people to join us on the TS so we would be able to discuss the launch and your idea is awesome. ;D
What about me SPACEBOY.... >:( Thanx a lot!! ;)
Anyhow as spaceboy said it's normally a small crowd so the more the merrier. Kosmonaut and I was just commenting that it's kind of a disappointment that more people don't take advantage of the TS server. It would be cool to put the voices behind some of these posts.
So yea ADMIN, You know I'm in. ;D Best idea since the Movie contest.
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Hell yeah..I'm in! ;D
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Really sorry Driver! I had forgotten, as you were not there yesterday because you had to work. :( And I have been very busy so I am very forgetful but yea it is usually me, Uri, Driver,and maybe a couple other people there. It would be great to see everyone! :)
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Wow we are looking very good for the launch!!
20 yes's already!
Great idea Admin and SSM Crew. Keep up the great work.
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Sure, why not. It should spice things up a bit!! ;D
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I'm In for the next launch as long as I am not working
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CDR Marvx is surely attending that kinda thing...can we try at junes STS 127?
/Marvx
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Do you think we can do a test run before June 13? Just to make sure everyone knows how it will work and things like that. :)
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Good Idea. Let's meet all together in teamspeak e.g. this Saturday, May 30, at 18:00 GMT that would be
11:00 (11 a.m.) PDT
13:00 (01 p.m.) CDT
14:00 (02 p.m.) EDT
19:00 (07 p.m.) West Europe (London, ...)
20:00 (08 p.m.) Central Europe
For a synced launch time one hour later at 19:00 GMT.
Maybe Uri can speak the countdown (every Minute, T-30sec, T-15sec and the last 10 sec).
(If you like, we can as well try to rehearse the original Launch time (7:17 a.m. EDT).
That would be OK for the Europeans but quite early for our West coast US friends.)
/Armin
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For the last 4 launches or so, I had sync-ed SSM2007 to the NASA MET and performed everything from T-1:50 up to MECO in parallel with the real launch. One reason is to verify our model and second reason to simply have fun and "feel" a "real" launch.
What a great idea. Congrats.
Reminds me a little story. Back in the 80s (late 80s) I was already playing a lot with the MS Flight Simulator. Back then I was already a great space and flight fan and followed literally every shuttle launch. One day (I don't remember exactly when), I was waiting for a shuttle launch, broadcasted on TV (I don't even remember whether there was a NASA channel yet), while I was pretending with the flight simulator to fly around the shuttle (with a small Cessna) on the launch pad (in which of course the shuttle never goes up). Suddenly, from the TV I hear some announcement that some alert went off, because some small private plane entered the restricted airspace around the Cape area.
Of course total coincidence, but at that moment, it was just very funny (or weird, or call it whatever you like).
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For the last 4 launches or so, I had sync-ed SSM2007 to the NASA MET and performed everything from T-1:50 up to MECO in parallel with the real launch. One reason is to verify our model and second reason to simply have fun and "feel" a "real" launch.
What a great idea. Congrats.
Reminds me a little story. ...<SNIP>...
Of course total coincidence, but at that moment, it was just very funny (or weird, or call it whatever you like).
Not a coincidence. You were actually flying in a parallel universe - as we all do! 8)
/Admin
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How exactly will we synch up the MET?
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Hi Armin,
I'm not sure I'll be able to join you guys this saturday..
But let me know if you need anything :)
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How exactly will we synch up the MET?
During prelaunch there are 1 official hold for 10 minutes at T-9 min and two unofficial holds (where even the real time holds waiting for you to flip the switches).
The unofficial holds (at T-5min and T-2min) can be cut down to under a second with some preparation.
The official hold is part of the game (and of real life), so at "my" meeting time (Launch minus 1 hour) we schould be at T-0:50:00 and running or better at for example at T-30min and in pause mode, so we could chat along a little and all go out of pause at T-30min (Launch minus 40min) and let it run without timeskip till launch.
We need one person to call out the "official" time every some minutes. If this can not be Uri then someone else.
If someone comes late or falls out of sync he can overtake us with timeskip, pause at a defined time T-x and wait there for us to unpause. (That is what I did during the last two real launches.)
It would help, for each to rehearse this alone in advance, especially the time critical moments at T-5min and T-2min.
Maybe it would help if we all use the same mission. (We should find a launch 2 or 3 hours after sunrise.)
Armin
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You bring up a great point and I hope everyone agrees. As before but have no idea if this is possible but it would be so perfect if SSM could without a lot of work create just the launch portion of STS-127 at the right time of day so we would completely match up. :)
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Ok well I just saw that some of the SSM Ground Crew might checkout the test sins so can we make it final that at 18:00 GMT everyone meets on TS and has SSM ready and we can discuss how it will work? :) Maybe if Admin thinks it should be, he can post like a news thing or something like that telling everyone that we will have our test sinc Saturday 5-30-09 at 18:00 GMT.
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I'll be there for this, just want to know what to have loaded, when and where, and when to pause it. I was NEVER good at math. :P
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That's the reason why I posted the time in different timezones:
18:00 GMT would be
11:00 (11 a.m.) PDT
13:00 (01 p.m.) CDT
14:00 (02 p.m.) EDT
19:00 (07 p.m.) West Europe (London, ...)
20:00 (08 p.m.) Central Europe
I checked the launch times of the SSM2007 missions yet published to compare with the STS-127 launch time (shortly after sunrise). Two missions come close:
STS-1 (15 minutes too late compared to sunrise and STS-127)
STS-96 (30 minutes too early)
STS-1 would have the most equal lighting conditions and the correct launch pad (39A) but the white tank, the wrong inclination, no roll up maneuver, no OMS assisted burn.
STS-96 is too late (lauches exactly on sunrise) and the wrong launch pad (39B) but the rest would come close and the inclination is exact, because it is an ISS launch.
So I would opt for using STS-96.
If we meet at the time printed above (one hour before launch) we should have prepared SSM2007 to be in pause at T-30min, that is just before or at comm 14 (after completing the cabin vent checks and before entering the firs OPS 101 into the computers).
We would have then 20 min for chatting before unpausing. That should be enough time for everyone to prepare.
To enter Teamspeak, go to one of the following pages
http://wiki.ssm-fans.info
http://portal.ssm-fans.info/index.php/teamspeakserver
and click on connect in the Teamspeak viewer area.
You have to enter a nickname (the second link will try to enter your email as nickname, but you can change this before connecting).
Nickname should be the same as the forumname here.
See (and hear) you on Saturday on the
Official SSM2007 STS-127 rehearsal countdown.
Armin
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Awesome can't wait. :)
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Great Post Armin. You did a great job researching and posting it! There is only one thing I would like to add and that is the official TS website for anyone who is new to it. :) http://ts.ssm-fans.info
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Great idea, great job, spaceboy, Pocci!!!
Hope to see you all there
/Marvx
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I try to be on TS in 2 hours (that is 24h before the planned session).
"See" you then.
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Hi folks!
This is mission control ;) and if we want to keep to my suggestion we are at T-01:44:57 at the moment I post (post, not edit) this.
Admin, I must correct your other post http://www.space-shuttle-mission.com/forum/index.php?topic=3154 a little, if you allow.
Suggestion was to meet at UTC 18:00 in teamspeak with STS-96 running in pause mode at T-30 min. So far correct.
But suggestion was that at UTC 19:00 we launch and not unpause.
So assuming the countdown hold at T-9 min is exact 10 minutes we would unpause at UTC 18:20 (40 minutes before launch) but we can talk about this in teamspeak.
I guess waiting a full hour for unpause would be a little boring.
To help keeping synced, I made an excel file with a countdown clock.
It has an autorun-macro that keeps all times actual.
I placed it on a webserver of the hospital I am working for.
The direct link for it is:
http://www.anaesth.med.tu-muenchen.de/Daten/Countdown.zip
The countdown holds in it are for real starts. To use it with SSM2007 the hold at T-20 min must be set to 0.
Admin or Uri, if you like it, you are free to host it on the SSM site or the wiki.
Armin
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Have fun.... i was planing to join, but things came up...
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Same here. :(
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TCDT report posted yesterday on the GroundCrew Blog: http://ssm2007.blogspot.com/
/Admin
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Hi Admin,
And the Fans posted a review on their blog as well:
http://portal.ssm-fans.info/ [link added by Admin]
Any comments appreciated!
/Marvx
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I had a great time and enjoyed 'meeting' everyone. Can't wait until the next one.
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TCDT mission control here.
I can report nearly a dozen shuttles soaring into space in parallel sync with only a few minutes delay. I could almost feel the rumble.
Good job, pilots.
Armin
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Yes, it was a lot of fun to do this, and it was nice to hear the voices of fellow simnauts from both sides of the atlantic. :)
Good job, pilots.
"pilots"? You mean "Commanders"... ;)
Well, I don't know about you, but I was the CDR in my shuttle. ;) ;D
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lol
n i felt like CAPCOM, CDR and PLT
/Marvx
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Good job, pilots.
"pilots"? You mean "Commanders"... ;)
Well, I don't know about you, but I was the CDR in my shuttle. ;) ;D
And who flipped all the switches on your R2 and R4 Panelss? ;)
I felt that "Good job, pilots" sounds better than "Good job, commanders".
But this is not my mother tongue.
And myself felt more than MCC plus a little CDR and PLT.
Armin
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And who flipped all the switches on your R2 and R4 Panelss? ;)
My other self... ;D
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Next Synch Launch "real" event is with STS-127 on July 11th (if it is not scrubbed again).
There is plenty of time to practice and prepare, and no excuses for not attending the real event ;)
/Admin
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We may want to have one or two more TCDTs before July 11th, as a few minor issues showed up last time.
This would also be a good opportunity for a practice run for those users who could not join us last time, and who would like to see what a synchronized launch is all about and would want to practice before the "hot" launch.
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Would anybody be up for one this weekend ?
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sounds good to me, Just need to "check the schedule" and make sure I don't have anything planned ;)
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Well? Any plans for a TCDT tomorrow? If yes, when?
/Admin
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Guys, we've removed the launch T-00:05:00 and T-00:02:00 "no go" stops in order to help with Sync Launches events.
What about a new TCDT Sync Launch event this weekend in preparation for STS-127?
/Admin
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Could we do it tomorrow? I am going to Palm Beach tomorrow night. And going to Tennessee the next weekend. :)
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I don't know how many can do that not on a weekend... any feedback?
/Admin
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It just so happens as it were, I've got tomorrow off. But, I'd tend to agree most folks probably won't be able to participate before Saturday.
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Ya I am thinking the same thing.It is fine if you have to put it on the weekend. I will participate in the next one. On summer break till August. :)
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Hi folks,
mission control here ;-)
I am planning my private TCDT today. Exactly one week before launch.
This will be in 3 hours and in one hour will be T-1:50.
I will use STS-117, this was a June launch on almost exactly the same time and I invite everybody to join me on TS in 45 minutes.
See you,
Armin
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I'm here waiting....
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Hi folks,
bradleyjs and I confirm an on time launch of all participating shuttles.
All (both) of them ;)
A big thank you to the ground crew for taking out the T-5 and T-2 breaks.
But be aware that there is still one moment where you can lose sync:
At T-9 minutes at the END of the holding time.
At the end of the hold time you have to manual resume the countdown with a left click on the event timer control start switch. If you do not click right in the moment the comm tells you to do so, you will lose every second you wait between comm announcement and mouse click.
I do not know what happens in the real shuttle. Is the event timer just an information for the crew or does it trigger the ignition of engine and booster?
In the game, the countdown waits for you to start the event timer and launch is performed 9 minutes and zero seconds after that. But in the game the real time clock stops as well until you start the timer.
It is possible to use that freezing of the real time to resync with NASA:
Timeskip a little, so that the end of the hold is earlier than at NASA and the simulator shows a NO GO while the real time clock on F11 is stopped.
Then start the event timer, when the NASA countdown resumes. This will help if NASA decides to have the T-9 hold shorter or longer than the ingame 10 minutes.
Armin
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the T-9 minute hold is never 10 minutes on ISS missions, it's more like 25..
there is no other way other then pausing at the end of the hold and wait for the real countdown clock. release the pause few seconds prior to the mark, and then just hit the switch on the maek.
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the T-9 minute hold is never 10 minutes on ISS missions, it's more like 25..
there is no other way other then pausing at the end of the hold and wait for the real countdown clock. release the pause few seconds prior to the mark, and then just hit the switch on the maek.
Uri, the T-9 hold can change from launch to launch. We decided on a 10-minute wait to alleviate the "wait-pain" of those who do things in real-time.
OT: I had to merge this new topic with the main "Synch launches events" thread in the stickies. Currently, this is the only place to post TCDT event announcements/comments, etc. If these events become as popular as we hope, we might even open a specific forum for it :) but for now, please keep all the TCDT activity confined to this thread.
Thank you,
/Admin
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Admin, thanks for merging the topics. Sorry for opening a new thread.
Admin, the 10-minute decision is perfect. It is not too long and most of it can be timeskipped.
Uri, there is even no need for pausing the game, as it freezes at exact T-9:00 minutes and wakes up on starting the event timer.
It might be interesting to pause a few seconds after starting the event timer, to take care of the reaction time of yourself to recognize that the NASA countdown is running again.
And it would be very helpful to have a link to an official NASA countdown clock, so that we are independent of NASA TV (and if they show the clock at my pause time or not).
Armin
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the T-9 minute hold is never 10 minutes on ISS missions, it's more like 25..
there is no other way other then pausing at the end of the hold and wait for the real countdown clock. release the pause few seconds prior to the mark, and then just hit the switch on the maek.
Uri, the T-9 hold can change from launch to launch. We decided on a 10-minute wait to alleviate the "wait-pain" of those who do things in real-time.
Thank you,
/Admin
I know :)
the hold window changes in size and it's larger as the launch window narrows.
on ISS missions launch window is about 5 minutes if I'm not mistaken, HST window is 2 minutes.
so they tend to have a longer T-9 holds, so they will have more time to assess the issues (such as the white room door on STS-126). if the hold was shorter, they would have probably scrubbed the launch, or if the window is HUGE, extend the hold and send someone to fix it.
I think that 10 minutes is a good value,
But I'm not sure how much time we can hold at the "resume" comm without getting the launch scrubbed by the game.
so if you need to cover the 20 somthing hold window you can just pause at the end of the game window, and wait for the real one to resume. few seconds before that happens you unpause the game, and hit the Mark.
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So how do you define "few seconds before that happens"?
It does make more sense to unpause few seconds after that happens.
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Pocci and I had a real "Blast" at exactly 1939 EDT
Suggestion: Perhaps a multi-player type functionality could be incorporated to allow each user's sim to dynamically sync to a primary source provider -- like the NTP (Network Time) protocol does with servers.
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Pocci,
What time EDT on Saturday do you plan to MC this event?
As, I plan to participate -- got clearance from GC (AKA "the wife") to proceed as planned... ;D
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I should be available as well.
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Since were talking about the weekend, gonna have to make it a date. ;)
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Guys, who is in charge of organizing this weekend Synch Launch? I need firm details so that we can post it on the Blog etc.
/Admin
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...snip...
We meet all together in teamspeak this Saturday, Jul 11, at 22:30 UTC that would be:
Sat 15:30 (11:30 a.m.) PDT
Sat 17:30 (01:30 p.m.) CDT
Sat 18:30 (02:30 p.m.) EDT
Sat 22:30 (06:30 p.m.) UTC (GMT)
Sat 23:30 (07:30 p.m.) West Europe (London, ...)
Sun 00:30 (00:30 a.m.) Central Europe
Sun 08:30 (08:30 a.m.) Sydney
Remember everybody eastward from London, this is Sunday morning.
During the night from Saturday to Sunday.
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Sorry, mate, but it seems like you messed up the time conversion to p.m. a bit: ;)
Sat 15:30 is 03.30 p.m. for PDT
Sat 17:30 is 05.30 p.m. for CDT
Sat 18:30 is 06.30 p.m. for EDT
Sat 22:30 is 10.30 p.m. for UTC (GMT)
Sat 23:30 is 11.30 p.m. for West Europe (London, ...)
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Ahhhhhh, I edited my last post and overlooked the numbers of the hours. :'(
Admin, is it possible to correct my post directly?
If not I would like to repost and you delete the whole wrong post.
Thanks Spacewalker, for mentioning it.
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Ahhhhhh, I edited my last post and overlooked the numbers of the hours. :'(
Admin, is it possible to correct my post directly?
If not I would like to repost and you delete the whole wrong post.
Thanks Spacewalker, for mentioning it.
Please re-post a clean one Pocci. Once you do it, I will remove the old one.
/Admin
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There may be a delay again for the Shuttle this Saturday -- 60% chance of bad weather is currently predicted. We're currently going through a bout of real bad weather front as I write this...
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OK, lets do it with me as MC again.
We meet all together in teamspeak this Saturday, Jul 11, at 22:30 UTC that would be:
Sat 15:30 (03:30 p.m.) PDT
Sat 17:30 (05:30 p.m.) CDT
Sat 18:30 (06:30 p.m.) EDT
Sat 22:30 (10:30 p.m.) UTC (GMT)
Sat 23:30 (11:30 p.m.) West Europe (London, ...)
Sun 00:30 (00:30 a.m.) Central Europe
Sun 08:30 (08:30 a.m.) Sydney
Remember everybody eastward from London, this is Sunday morning.
During the night from Saturday to Sunday.
For a synced launch time 1 hour and 9 minutes later at 23:39 UTC (19:39 EDT).
Everybody should have NASA-TV online via TV or second computer.
(If you Alt-Tab out of SSM2007 you pause the simulation!)
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/
For those without NASA-TV there should be one person who speaks the countdown (every Minute, T-30sec, T-15sec and the last 10 sec) if necessary.
I can do this as before, but it would be better someone in Florida because of time-lag.
BTW, I updated my Excel-Countdown program available here:
http://www.anaesth.med.tu-muenchen.de/Daten/Countdown.zip
At that time NASA should be at T-49 minutes and counting with two holds to come.
(10 minutes at T-20 and some minutes at T-9)
T-49 at 22:30UTC implies a 10 min hold at T-9 or a different launch time than 23:39 UTC.
We don't know the exact planned duration at T-9 now, but we'll know, when we meet.
I suggest everybody to use STS-117 as this is a Summer launch to the ISS from the same pad and a launch time only 1 minute different from the official STS-127 launch time.
Everybody should be already in sync with NASA or have the simulation paused at T-30 minutes, so we have plenty of time to sync and to discuss how to handle the two holds.
To enter Teamspeak, go to one of the following pages
http://wiki.ssm-fans.info
http://portal.ssm-fans.info/index.php/teamspeakserver
and click on connect in the Teamspeak viewer area.
If you need help connecting, look at:
http://ts.ssm-fans.info
I advise everybody to rehearse the STS-117 launch and have some saves ready
at T-30:00 T-20:00 T-8:30 and T-2:00 minutes.
At least the T-2 minutes save is important, cause from that time on you can just sit and enjoy the launch.
Looking forward to hear you all on Saturday,
Armin
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speaking of which..
I recommend isntalling this piece of software.
http://www.teamspeakoverlay.com/
it allows the TS to "project" who is talking on the channel. that would definitely help with the "who is talking" question if you run the TS on the same computer as your SSM.
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Just published on the Ground Crew Blog: "The Ground Crew station during the STS-125 Sync Launch Event"
http://ssm2007.blogspot.com/
/Admin
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Just published on the Ground Crew Blog: "The Ground Crew station during the STS-125 Sync Launch Event"
http://ssm2007.blogspot.com/
/Admin
Nice Lamborghini :D
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Just published on the Ground Crew Blog: "The Ground Crew station during the STS-125 Sync Launch Event"
http://ssm2007.blogspot.com/
/Admin
Nice Lamborghini :D
LOL! Actually it's "only" a Lexus. The Lamb will come when we upgrade this machine to an i7 with Win7 in about 6 months. Meanwhile, we enjoy the leather and smooth ride 8)
/Admin
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Heh, I was talking about the car on the desktop ;D :D
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Heh, I was talking about the car on the desktop ;D :D
LOL! OOPS! Somebody's dreams have been revealed to the world.
/Admin
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Per Pocci: I can do this as before, but it would be better someone in Florida because of time-lag.
I'll take the responsibility of handling the calls from Florida (Orlando) via NASA TV and will coordinate with Pocci on how best to handle this during the sync.
Jeff
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.....I can do this as before, but it would be better someone in Florida because of time-lag.
Agreed..... No offense Pocci but he's got a pretty good point. Uri and I once watch a landing "together" and there was major lag. (I'm in Chicago, He's in Israel)
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see ya all at Saturday night!!!
/Marvx
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.....I can do this as before, but it would be better someone in Florida because of time-lag.
Agreed..... No offense Pocci but he's got a pretty good point. Uri and I once watch a landing "together" and there was major lag. (I'm in Chicago, He's in Israel)
To clarify the quoting: You quoted bradlyjs who quoted me.
"[...] it would be better someone in Florida [...]" are my words and we all have the same opinion (and the same good point). ;)
The whole "speaking the countdown via Teamspeak" is only necessary, should there be someone in Teamspeak but not watching NASA-TV.
OK, that could be, if someone would need to watch NASA-TV via internet, but has no 2nd computer for SSM2007 as it is as far as I know not possible to run the sim in windowed mode.
Hey Admin, how about an ingame NASA-TV Window?
That would be nice to have on the F11-mission-control-view?
Do you want me to post that in the suggestion forum? ;D :o
Armin
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....I can do this as before, but it would be better someone in Florida because of time-lag.[...]" are my words and we all have the same opinion (and the same good point). ;)
...Is officially giving credit where credit is due: GREAT POST POCCI, AND I AGREE WITH YOU. :D
Hopefully, "That person" in Florida had Direct TV, Which has the NASA Channel on it.
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Here is a countdown
http://www.gmodules.com/ig/creator?synd=open&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ricardocarlier.nl%2Foverig%2Fcountdown_spaceshuttle.xml&lang=de (http://www.gmodules.com/ig/creator?synd=open&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ricardocarlier.nl%2Foverig%2Fcountdown_spaceshuttle.xml&lang=de)
/Marvx
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Hopefully, "That person" in Florida had Direct TV, Which has the NASA Channel on it.
Hopefully everybody has NASA-TV on whatever channel he or she likes,
so that "that person in Florida" is not needed at all.
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Here is a countdown
All these web-based countdowns are nice, but not useful, because they all can't be adapted to the lag between NASA-TV and your local time.
Even my excel countdown can't do that (now).
But it will be able to in some hours, when I am back home and have more time for programming.
When I have done it, I repost the link here.
For the time being, I have corrected a little error in calculating the hold-end-times of holds in the past. (The future holds are correct.)
BTW, has anybody downloaded my file and really uses it?
I don't want to spam the forum with my private programming.
Armin
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AFAIK this countdown is synced to NASA one. If you watch the code inside that gadghet, its connects to NASA servers
So i guess its very accurate one, at least the most accurate one i found by now
/Marvx
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It is good to have a countdown that is connected to the NASA server,
(it will help determining the correct holding durations)
but even NASA does not know how many seconds behind real life is their NASA-TV playing on my (and your and every Teamspeak user's) screen.
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if you want we can meet tonite in TS to test the clock accuracy
22:00 is ok?
/Marvx
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OK, let's hope, that NASA-TV is broadcasting their countdown as well from time to time.
22:00 (20:00 UTC for those, that wish to join).
That will be 2 hours after begin of the T-11 hours hold.
We might try to meet 3 hours earlier.
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I'm making a nice set up for tomorrow so I have to decide. SSM-2007 on projector or NASA-TV on projector or NSF on projector. Hmmm ???
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OK, so I volunteered yesterday to be the "Florida person" -- I'm no longer required, right?
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OK, so I volunteered yesterday to be the "Florida person" -- I'm no longer required, right?
I feel so useless now.... :-X j/k
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OK, so I volunteered yesterday to be the "Florida person" -- I'm no longer required, right?
As I said, It depends:
If everybody has access to NASA-TV, you are not required. :'(
If only one guy has no TV access, I would vote for you. 8)
Armin
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I'm making a nice set up for tomorrow so I have to decide. SSM-2007 on projector or NASA-TV on projector or NSF on projector. Hmmm ???
Whatever you decide, you should publish a pic of the setup "in action"!
/Admin
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Space shuttle Endeavour's third launch attempt is being threatened by the risk of an afternoon or evening thunderstorm in central Florida.
( USA~Driver rolls his eyes )
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Real thing: SCRUB
Long story cut short: Lightning strikes from yesterday.
Press conference to be held at 11EDT, 15Z
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I suggest we continue our mission today to proof out the recent hold removals.
Here's hoping the real deal goes off tomorrow.
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OK guys,
tomorrow I have to work during launch time, but I will try to be with you.
Might just be possible, that I have to scrub my private launch because some patient is not patient ;)
For the time being, I have updated my excel countdown clock.
Now it is quite nice, but there is still some work needed.
In the actual version, which I uploaded some minutes ago, I have the rest holding durations, that I estimate from T-5h onward.
It is necessary to manipulate the hold durations not only minute- but as well second- wise.
(If you subtract the T-minus-time from the L-minus-time you get a rest total holding duration of 3h, 25 min, 35s.(The countdown-101 webpage indicates only 2h, 10m, 0s plus the T-9 hold (some minutes)))
However, if anybody want to look at it, you can download it here:
http://www.anaesth.med.tu-muenchen.de/Daten/Countdown.zip
Should groundcrew shed a look at it, let it be a mild look please.
I was just programmed quick and dirty during nighttime.
The code is not yet documented.
Bug reports are accepted ;)
Should we decide to rehearse on the original launch time, I would suggest to use my calculated/estimated holding times:
T-03:00 holding duration 180 minutes
T-00:20 holding duration 10 minutes
T-00:09 holding duration 15 min 35 sec.
Armin
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Per SpaceFlightNow.com -- "Space shuttle Endeavour's launch postponed to Sunday" -- this sucks as I've been waiting all week for this launch... 8)
Yes, we had a very, very bad storm system come thru yesterday (actually over the last 3 days consecutive)... In fact, 3 people were hit by lightning on Thursday and 1 person died... we typically get something like 20,000 lightning strikes when real bad storms pass thru -- "Lightning Capital of North America".
Pocci: GL with your un-Patient - Patient...
As of: 1220 EDT - current weather is absolutely perfect ...
Unrelated: Was up till 0400 EDT last night looking at the stars with my new telescope (demonstrating for my 2 sons {ages 15 and 12} who just flew in for the Summer) [and I've only used it twice in the last month!!!] - it was "mostly clear skies" -- which hasn't happened in more than a week+...
So: I'll plan to be on TS and see if anyone will be willing to do a test-run...
Jeff
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I'll plan to be there, already have my saves all set up at the recommended times.
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Per SpaceFlightNow.com -- "Space shuttle Endeavour's launch postponed to Sunday" -- this sucks as I've been waiting all week for this launch... 8)
Yes, we had a very, very bad storm system come thru yesterday (actually over the last 3 days consecutive)... In fact, 3 people were hit by lightning on Thursday and 1 person died... we typically get something like 20,000 lightning strikes when real bad storms pass thru -- "Lightning Capital of North America".
Pocci: GL with your un-Patient - Patient...
As of: 1220 EDT - current weather is absolutely perfect ...
Unrelated: Was up till 0400 EDT last night looking at the stars with my new telescope (demonstrating for my 2 sons {ages 15 and 12} who just flew in for the Summer) [and I've only used it twice in the last month!!!] - it was "mostly clear skies" -- which hasn't happened in more than a week+...
So: I'll plan to be on TS and see if anyone will be willing to do a test-run...
Jeff
Wow we over here in Tampa area got some really bad lightning but it only lasted for like an hour yesterday morning. Yesterday things started to slow down over here. Hopefully they will do the same over there today.
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Seeing as Im still enroute Amsterdam-Sint Maarten on FS9, I will just listen in, if the test-run goes ahead
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MC here, where are you all?
I am go for SSM2007 launch at 19:39:35 EDT
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MC here,
I confirm that all of one shuttle launched on time. ;)
At least on my side no thunderstorm damage on the Shuttle stack.
I hope that I can meet you all tomorrow. (Depends on workload in my hospital.)
OK, back to T-11h and holding for the next 7 or 8 hours.
Over and out
Armin
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Hey all,
just in case Pocci is at work...
i'll be there tonite as well...so if we consider the same savestates, that Pocci suggested, we will meet 1 hour prior to launch, set with a t - 30 min savehold, hoping for a successful launch tonite.
Hope thats ok to you as well, Pocci?
CAPCOM over and out
/Marvx
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I'm sorry I didn't make it last night fellas. I'm a go for tonight however. Watching NASA tv now as they do tanking.
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Mike Moses just declared that they are GO FOR LAUNCH tonite!!!!
Yippie
/Marvx
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Ok guys,
For it's sunday over here, and many (included myself) may have to work tomorrow:
I'll still be doing the synced launch tonite! Anybody who wants to join meets at 12am CEST (means 10 pm UTC). This will mean we are at T-1:13 min away from the realy lift off.
As there are still 2 holds included (T-20 min and T-9 min), this will be enough time to get everybody set up for the launch. Everybody who wants to join me, meets with STS 117 loaded at a savestate at T-30 min. That means we get enough time to set everything up...
Hope anyone will join me
/Marvx
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I'll be there Marv.
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http://ts.ssm-fans.info :)
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well, STS-127 was scrubbed just at the End of the T-9 Min hold.
as we were all online and ready, we just went for a Synced launch of our own.
and we broke the users on TS record with 14 members online..
maybe tomorrow STS-127 will finally go and we'll have a real NASA synced launch :)
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The STS-127 Sync Launch Event is now open.
Log in the TeamSpeak server, go to the "Synced SSM2007/STS 127 Launch (R)" room and enjoy the company, hoping that today is "the day" for the STS-127 crew and for us.
Acting Launch Director is Pocci.
/Admin
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Thank you all for joining the event.
Sadly my internet provider suffered from a crashed computer, so I popped out of teamspeak and NASA TV shortly before countdown resume at T-9.
I could do nothing except watching my own countdown clock and holding my fingers crossed.
When I had internet access again at T-3 seconds, almost everybody was gone.
Well do it again in two days. This time I recommend STS-124.
Launch time is 1h too early, but launch date is end of may.
Sun angle should be pretty close to the real launch.
I'll be waiting for the hardcore simmers from T-2h onwards. Everybody is invited to join as and when he or she likes.
Blue skies,
Armin
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Roger that, LD MC CAPCOM will be there
/Marvx
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next launch is wensday 6pm EST anyone going to be their I will
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Pocci, I wondered where you went??
Ironically, my INet/Cable provider dropped me a couple of times yesterday too.
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Hope to see you all online today and see a synced launch
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Rain at Launchpad 39A I Think its facing the Records for Columbias 7 launch attemps record for STS 61C and 73!
Have no good feeling watching NASATV
>:( :( :o ??? :'(
/Marvx
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Don't worry. This was expected. They are expecting it to move out by launch time. It is pretty bad right now they have a cell directly over the pads and SLF. The inspection team has taken shelter in the FSS. It is absolutely pouring on NASA TV. They right now are under severe thunderstorm warning and Phase II lighting alert and red for almost everything on thing on the weather chart. The only thing I worry about now is if they could have a delay because they can't do there inspections right now. But we are still 4 hours from launch so don't worry about any storms till T-9 min.
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Crew is entering the Shuttle.
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side hatch is locked ill be on TS in a few
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The "n"th STS-127 Sync Launch Event is officially open.
Log in the SSM2007 Teamspeak and standby for instructions.
I understand that it is frustrating staying online and waiting for the launch, only to get a scrub after 1-2 hours of waiting.
Consider this however: we are all here to experience as much as possible what the real crew feels. THAT INCLUDES FRUSTRATION! 8)
So come on in, don't be a wuss - join all of us online and see how it goes today. Weather may yet surprise everybody and we'll finally blast off towards another cool 16-days ISS mission!
/Admin
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Weather is cooperating. It seems that this is it!
/Admin
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I am in sync but to busy to go on TS sorry. But I will be in sync with all of you and plan on actually going until Mission comms on STS-124 while in sync!
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Roughly 20 minutes to liftoff: WX GREEN ALL THE WAY!
So it looks like our Sync Launch Event is a go too!
/Admin
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So Columbia is still the record holder :P
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All,
Sorry that I had to get off of the TS server so soon, as I really wanted to finish listening to the discussions, but here in Orlando we're under a Tornado Warning until 2030 hrs (EDT) ... Perfect timing for the Shuttle to launch when it did...
It was great guys, so keep me informed of any new Sync attempts in the future and I'll do my best to participate...
Thanks,
Jeff (AKA Bradley) :)
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I synced SSM2007 launch of STS-47 with todays real Launch of STS-127. It was so COOL! Every simulated event was in sync with the real thing, only MECO and external tank seperation was slightly off. I started at the 9 min hold mark and started with NASA to sync the launch.
I want to congratulate the Ground crew and all the programmers for such a great job you have done with SSM2007. It is one of the best sims I have ever had!
Just finish polishing it off by geting some of the known bugs out and work on the voices some to make it sound more realistic and you will have a perfect sim that many will enjoy for year to come.
Once again, Thanks for all of the hard work you have done on SSM2007.. I really appreceiate having expercienced a synced launch and see how well the details of a real launch was incorporated in SSM2007.
:D
Mark
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This was a great event, I suggest you join us on teamspeak for the next synch launch. A 'blast' was had by all I dare say. Thanks to all of you who were there and I enjoyed speaking with you all!
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+1
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I would like to see an exclusive avatar patch created possibly for use by SSM2007 Scrub Team / Synch Launch Team participants. Granted, we didn't go through what the crew of 127 did by far, but we were there ! Godspeed Endeavour, today's launch was a phenomenal event !
(http://upload.ssm-fans.info/images/synchlaunchteam.jpg)
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Agreed.
Great time and discussion had by all. ;)
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+2
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Well I guess I should go in order of number of people...
+6,706,993,152
I only had one problem and that was that ET sep and MECO were pretty far off. Thinking that that isn't mission specific.
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I only had one problem and that was that ET sep and MECO were pretty far off. Thinking that that isn't mission specific.
There was that and some other small snag(s) that were discussed in the after action de-briefing. Sorry you missed it, We could have used your imput. I think next-time around we'll be better prepared. I can definetely say I will.
It's just too bad launches are so far and few between...... :-\
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Ya sorry I had to leave so soon after launch and barely talked the whole time. When we hit T-9 min and counting I can't think I am going crazy so I did the sync but did not talk. Too focused on everything.
Got to get to bed soon. Early flight day start tomorrow. Like 8:00am EDT. Thinking of trying the OBSS inspection live. Anyone who would be willing to attempt this join me on TS. Will do it if I can. Might have house work and other stuff. Plus got a model to work on that needs to get done.
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I don't know about you guys but GC2 reports that at his end, MECO was @5s later than the real one - which is pretty good! He sync-ed to NASATV, not to the Teamspeak MC call so the KSC-to-local delays were eliminated. Except for the 5s MECO delay, everything else was right on the money and in sync with the NASATV video feed.
He ran SSM2007 on a dedicated PC and NASATV, Pocci's Excel macro and Teamspeak on a laptop. He stayed with STS-117 as initially suggested. Which mission did you select for the (finally) successful STS-127 launch?
Brainstorming with you guys after MECO was the real blast however. We are discussing how to make this hapen more often and how to maximize its benefits to us and the community.
/Admin
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we moved the missions around.
on the first scrub we went for STS-117
second attempt was STS-98
and the third was supposed to be STS-124 (but I was lazy and used my preset STS-98 saves).
but the changes in the missions were not officially announced (we agreed on it on TS) so it was probably a mission mix.
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Ah, that may explain a few things. Anyway, here is another idea - not really for a Sync Event (although this is perfectly possible too):
What about doing the ISS docking in real time with the STS-127 crew? This can be another step for discussing the multi-player possibilities that were covered in yesterday's TS impromptu brainstorming session with GC2.
/Admin
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What about doing the ISS docking in real time with the STS-127 crew? This can be another step for discussing the multi-player possibilities that were covered in yesterday's TS impromptu brainstorming session with GC2.
/Admin
Depending on the time, I'd show up just to continue the conversation... It was nice to speak with someone with the team, I got some great insight into the mindset of a game developer. I arrived a bit later than most, and missed the introductions....Kinda wondering who was "GC2" but it quickly became clear when he spoke with some authority.
Back to the sync-dock. For me this is depending on what time of the day it is. I was lucky to make the launch, And I hoping to link up with Uri for the landing to test connection times. Hopefully, docking and Landing takes place the same hour launch did.(Unlikely, I know) I would be keen to attending the brainstorming.
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it's much harder to sync then the launch.
on the launch all you need to do is sync up on the T-9 resume and you're good. on SSM the approach is head on (rather then comming in from below) so the ATT is wrong for the RPM, then you have the TORVA which the transition to it is not trivial...
I'm thinking of doing a TORVA docking video I'll need to talk to Dee-Jay about it. so it will take a while, it's not on a high priority right now.
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I wa sync'd up with STS-124 as was discussed earlier on this forum... and it was almost perfecti in sync with the launch...
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I wa sync'd up with STS-124 as was discussed earlier on this forum... and it was almost perfecti in sync with the launch...
Damn, I really need to check my typo's in the future; before posting -- had quite a few on this post... Was trying to multi-task to many things at once. ::)
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Yes It was good to meet some of you..Love the patch Idea too.
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Anyone know when the next Sycn'd event will be? Either "live" or "test"?
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Live we know for sure.. on the STS-128 launch...
test, will be on scrubs
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Live we know for sure.. on the STS-128 launch...
test, will be on scrubs
You are funny and albeit truful -- scrubs --- arrrghhh! Just, wish we could do sooner so that I can demo to my kids before they fly back to Virginia...
Ok, what's the date for STS-128 -- Aug 12th -- just guessing off the top of my head.
Thanks.
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Was August 18 but I believe do to the Tanking Tests it got moved to like the 20 or 24. Should fall somewhere in there.
Edit: Just checked NSF. NET (No Earlier Than) August 26.
http://nasaspaceflight.com
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Was August 18 but I believe do to the Tanking Tests it got moved to like the 20 or 24. Should fall somewhere in there.
Edit: Just checked NSF. NET (No Earlier Than) August 26.
http://nasaspaceflight.com
Rog, bummer....
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But we can gang up for a synced launch on Aug 1st if you like :)
18:00 UTC sounds good for everyone?
day after STS-127 scheduled to land, we'll have stuff to talk about :)
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I'm good with that. Jeff, when do your kids leave? We can certainly get one together before that, I see no reason not to.
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I'm good with that. Jeff, when do your kids leave? We can certainly get one together before that, I see no reason not to.
Towards the end of August but it could be sooner or later... The ex-wife can be very demanding; just would like to "subject" them to space-related events while they are here; and see Dad "in the action"... Although they have grown up with it over the last number of years...but they just don't seem to really have an interest since they moved away 2.5 years ago (ages 15 and 12 - FYI)...
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Anyone gonna try for STS-128??
It'll be very early in the morning here in FL - 0136 hrs... Not sure if I can but will certainly try...
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it's a workday for me, and it's about 8:30am so I doubt I'll even be able to watch it.
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I won't be able to. I am in Fl so it is really late and I start back at school the day before. :(
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Well, look on the bright side, at least Hurricane Bill isn't coming this way to stop the launch and the 2nd day of school for you..
However, according to the latest Hurricane Center report (1700 hrs EDT) it is headed for the UK. UK'ers get prepared!
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/203914.shtml?5-daynl#contents
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I'm not at home and have an unreliable internet here. At least I must decide between SSM or NASA-TV. Hey, is it possible to have SSM run in windowed mode on XP? Than I could run everything on one Laptop in (tiny stamp mode).
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Well, look on the bright side, at least Hurricane Bill isn't coming this way to stop the launch and the 2nd day of school for you..
However, according to the latest Hurricane Center report (1700 hrs EDT) it is headed for the UK. UK'ers get prepared!
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/203914.shtml?5-daynl#contents
Actually that is funny. That exact thing happened last school year. (without the canceled launch)
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IMO 99% of the WORKING PEOPLE will be ... at work, so I guess that there is little chance for a synced launch this time.
/Admin
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I agree as well, but I thought that I'd throw it out there anyway...
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Well, I will be at home and watch the launch 8)
But I won't do a synced launch :P
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Well conserding i usually get home around 12am I will be their. about time they do a night shift mission something I can watch real time finally.
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It starts to becoming ANNOYING, but the latest scrub may yet push the launch into the weekend! In that case, we can have a synced launch - LOL!
/Admin
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Next launch attempt is set for:
Friday 28 August 09 at 11:59 PM
lets see if we make it this time......
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Hi,
If we attempt to do a Synch Launch today, then the closest mission is STS-116:
- It is a Discovery mission
- Same inclination and altitude - the most important factors!
- It is a "night" launch, even if technically starts 3 hrs before the current one and the dates are not even close.
So if any of you is awake, we can meet on TeamSpeak with STS-116 paused at T-00:09:00 and waiting for the NASATV cue to "Resume Countdown".
Hopefully this one won't be a scrub after all our efforts to move it to the weekend - LOL!
/Admin
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We've updated the Ground Crew Blog with the necessary information to perform a Sync Launch.
http://ssm2007.blogspot.com/
/Admin
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Just a quick tip regarding the NASA TV sync.
on the last launch attempt we have noticed that the yahoo feeds and the ASX feed vary in delay, and they are about 40 seconds behind the real media stream and the delay can grow even longer due to network buffering.
it is recommended to use the Real Media stream due to the nature of the broadcast - it's lowers the bit rate instead of waiting for the buffer to fill.
BUT keep the ASX file close by, because I once had an incident where the RM feed got corrupted on SSME start - fortunately the ASX has it's delay, so I was able to view the SSME start after all :P
ASX link (windows media player): http://www.nasa.gov/55644main_NASATV_Windows.asx
Real media link:
http://www.nasa.gov/ram/35037main_portal.ram
the Real player can be downloaded from
http://www.real.com
you can save the links to the desktop (save as..). they are small files that launch the feed immediately.
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adding another thing.
in order to watch NASA TV (if you don't have it on the TV) you will need another computer.
but you can also sync up on audio only. which can be done via the normal video streams or a dedicated audio stream
http://www.nasa.gov/ram/55643main_NASATV_Audio_Only.ram
ohh.. and one last thing,
another reason to go with STS-116 for the synced launch..
Christer Fuglesang :)
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As noted......NASA TV's internet stream is about a minute behind as we speak.
I just don't get it.
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As noted......NASA TV's internet stream is about a minute behind as we speak.
I just don't get it.
behind what?
you have to get the real feed, re-encode it and broadcast over the insternet..
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Behind the live events. Spaceflightnow, CNN, MSNBC, etc do not have this problem, especially since they are using NASA's feed!
NASA TV's own feed should be the one with the smallest delay.
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Spacevidcast is the best stream I think cause I heard they use satellite instead of internet stream or something. :)
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Behind the live events. Spaceflightnow, CNN, MSNBC, etc do not have this problem, especially since they are using NASA's feed!
NASA TV's own feed should be the one with the smallest delay.
NASA.gov's own feed comes from Yahoo, they don't directly distribute their own feed.
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STS-129 Sync Launch? Is one planned for tomorrow?
/Admin
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Hi Admin, I was just checking and updating my Excel launch countdown chart.
Here is my suggestion:
We should meet all together in teamspeak Monday, Nov 16, at 18:00 UTC
That would be:
Mon 10:00 (10:00 a.m.) PST
Mon 12:00 (00:00 p.m.) CST (or 12:00 p.m.? High noon ;) )
Mon 13:00 (01:00 p.m.) EST
Mon 18:00 (06:00 p.m.) UTC (GMT)
Mon 18:00 (06:00 p.m.) West Europe (London, ...)
Mon 19:00 (07:00 p.m.) Central Europe
Tue 05:00 (05:00 a.m.) Sydney
Remember everybody eastward from India, this is Tuesday morning.
During the night from Monday to Tuesday.
For a synced launch time 1 hour 28 minutes later at 19:28 UTC (14:28 EST).
Everybody should have NASA-TV online via TV or second computer.
(If you Alt-Tab out of SSM2007 you pause the simulation!)
For the best experience for all I would recommend, that we all look at the same Internet NASA-TV stream, for excample:
http://www.nasa.gov/55644main_NASATV_Windows.asx
For those without NASA-TV I'll speak the countdown (every Minute, T-30sec, T-15sec and the last 10 sec) if necessary.
At that time NASA should be at T-33 minutes and counting with two holds to come.
(10 minutes at T-20 and approximately 45 minutes at T-9)
We don't know the exact planned duration at T-9 now, but we'll know, when we meet.
I suggest everybody to use STS-122 as this is an Atlantis launch to the ISS from the same pad and a launch time only 17 minute different from the official STS-129 launch time. STS-122 launch day differs 49 days from Dec 21 and STS-129 launch day differs 38 days, so the sun should be in nearly the same position giving similar lighting conditions.
Everybody should be already in sync with NASA or have the simulation paused at T-25 minutes, (after finishing the T-26 switches).
We should try to sync before or during the T-20 min hold and try to pick up the NASA countdown together at the end of the T-20 minutes hold.
To enter Teamspeak, go to one of the following pages
http://wiki.ssm-fans.info
http://portal.ssm-fans.info/index.php/teamspeakserver
and click on connect in the Teamspeak viewer area.
If you need help connecting, look at:
http://ts.ssm-fans.info
I advise everybody to rehearse the STS-122 launch and have some saves ready
at T-30:00 T-20:00 T-8:30 and T-2:00 minutes.
At least the T-2 minutes save is important, cause from that time on you can just sit and enjoy the launch.
Looking forward to hear you all on Monday,
Armin
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Great set up Pocci. Don't forget we are in DST in the U.S. Not sure if you took that into account.
Also I suggest this streaming for NASA TV as it is a higher res
http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163
I will be unable to participate as I will be at the launch. Looking forward to it!
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Spaceboy,
To my information, the USA is out of Daylight Saving Time (DST) since November, 1st this year (2009).
NASA announces the launch at 2:28 p.m. EST.
If your own clock is still in DST you might be an hour too early ;)
Have fun in KSC I would like to be there as well.
Your streaming link gets me only a black window today (yesterday it still worked, but was half a minute behind the NASA stream).
/Armin
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I will be unable to participate as I will be at the launch. Looking forward to it!
Just found a Teamspeak client for the iPhone: PhoneSpeex
I don't know if it works with "our" TS-server and it costs 4 euro.
/Armin
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ohh, and it's better to use the realMedia stream instead of the ASX.
It has less latency - so everybody are watching things at the same time.
(ASX's delay can be two minutes and more)
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OK - Uri, yesterday I did not find your post with the links.
(Silly me, it's just on page 11 of this thread.)
I'll quote you here partly to make it easy for everybody to pick the same stream:
(the title of the quote in the next line links to Uri's post)
it is recommended to use the Real Media stream due to the nature of the broadcast - it's lowers the bit rate instead of waiting for the buffer to fill. [...]
Real media link:
http://www.nasa.gov/ram/35037main_portal.ram
you can save the links to the desktop (save as..). they are small files that launch the feed immediately.
/Armin
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Spaceboy,
To my information, the USA is out of Daylight Saving Time (DST) since November, 1st this year (2009).
NASA announces the launch at 2:28 p.m. EST.
If your own clock is still in DST you might be an hour too early ;)
Have fun in KSC I would like to be there as well.
Your streaming link gets me only a black window today (yesterday it still worked, but was half a minute behind the NASA stream).
/Armin
Sorry I was thinking we just switched to DST. Well I am only 14 so its all good.
Sorry
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Who cares, I hope you have fun with that real launch. ;D
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Any takers for a Synchronized launch tomorrow, for sending off Atlantis on her LAST MISSION?
/Admin
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sorry :(
real world issues.. that month off really took it's toll..
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Real World issues (Work - make $$$ to pay bills, etc) have me too busy as well... sorry 2
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I'll do a synced launch with STS-125:
Same Pad, Same Orbi-ter, almost exact the same time (only 3 days and 78 minutes away).
OK inclination (Hubble flight) is wrong.
In case of a scrub, I would recommand STS-117 beginning from tomorrow.
T-1:50 would be at 11:35 EDT (in 3 hours from now.)
I am not sure, if I can join Teamspeak. I am not at home. We'll see (or hear).
/Armin
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1 hour until T-1:50.
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Anybody up for the last Discovery liftoff Synch-Launch Event?
/Admin
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Yup, gonna give it a go if i can pinch the missus laptop for a bit.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I love the idea! I will try to get the day off and join you!!! ;D
It sounds complicated, but I will read this entire thread over the weekend and prepare everything on my side. Then I'm sure you guys will guide me through the time critical parts on monday... ;)
So exciting, can't wait! :D
edit: Too bad I've got no Facebook account, so I can't see what's going on there regarding the synchronized launch event...
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Hi Ronin,
there is no need for a facebook account. Regarding preparation you can find everything here in this thread (I recommend reading the old posts here) and on the following website on the SSM fans portal:
http://portal.ssm-fans.info/index.php/blog/viewpost/73
Tonight or tomorrow I'll update my excel file and post here with which SSM mission I'll do the launch. Which mission you use is really not important. It is just nice to have approximately the same lighting conditions. It would be perfect to have the same orbi-ter on a late ISS mission so that the ingame narration would be matching as well.
The real interesting part of a synched launch is chatting you guys via teamspeak following the same event which we are all interested in using the same simulator we all love.
OK and it is really cool to have the same picture ingame and on NASA TV during and after liftoff.
It would be perfectly OK to just have any mission running in paused mode at T-0 and unpause on NASA TV liftoff if you are new in the game and just chat with us during the prelaunch phase.
/Armin
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Hi folks,
I found a nice time line with exact (to the second) times:
http://spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts133/fdf/133count.html
All times are KSC time.
For the launch at November, 2nd I will use STS-122.
/Armin
PS: I just recognize, that I'll be on night shift during launch. Sorry, no synched launch for me this time. :'(
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OK, I'm back in the team.
NASA delayed once more to Nov. 3, 03:52:13 pm EDT
That would be 19:52:13 UTC (or GMT)
Just in case, here the possible launch times for this week:
11/01/10 04:40:27 PM EDT (20:40:27 UTC)
11/02/10 04:17:56 PM EDT (20:17:56 UTC)
11/03/10 03:52:13 PM EDT (19:52:13 UTC)
11/04/10 03:29:42 PM EDT (19:29:42 UTC)
11/05/10 03:03:59 PM EDT (19:03:59 UTC)
11/06/10 02:41:28 PM EDT (18:41:28 UTC)
EST BEGINS
11/07/10 01:15:46 PM EST (18:15:46 UTC)
For those who want to follow from T-1:50:00 on, that time is 2 hours and 45 minutes before launch.
If launch does not happen until Nov. 7, it will be delayed to Nov. 24.
/Armin
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Count me in as well. I've read quite a bit on the project. I have my two computers, ones a laptop. I'll see if I can get teamspeak running but I doubt it will work or if I do get it working I'll only be able to listen.
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Just in case, here the possible launch times for this week:
11/01/10 04:40:27 PM EDT (20:40:27 UTC)
11/02/10 04:17:56 PM EDT (20:17:56 UTC)
11/03/10 03:52:13 PM EDT (19:52:13 UTC)
11/04/10 03:29:42 PM EDT (19:29:42 UTC)
11/05/10 03:03:59 PM EDT (19:03:59 UTC)
11/06/10 02:41:28 PM EDT (18:41:28 UTC)
EST BEGINS
11/07/10 01:15:46 PM EST (18:15:46 UTC)
/Armin
Following NASA.gov, I thought the launch was delayed until Wednesday at the earliest. Then I read Pocci's post and was well confused.
Launch dates; 11th of March 2010 through to 11th July 2010! (WTF), I realise that NASA sometimes get their "+"s and "-"s mixed up, but I hoped that the past and the future were more distinguishable. Then I remembered that over Uncle Sam's side of the pond, convention is often unconventional and you seem to have your own system of date terminology.
Fortunately I managed to work this one out all by myself, however and thankfully, my wife is always at my side when watching Judge Judy (who, to coin a phrase, "Rocks"), otherwise I'll be well confused ;D
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This just in:
"Weather forecasts show only 20 percent chance of favorable weather for Discovery's Thurs launch."
We have a 90% chance of rain in our forcast for tomorrow all day.
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Still today we have a SCRUB!
Maybe the next launch opportunity will be Monday 8.
Bye
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Anybody doing a synched launch?
At the moment I am alone on Teamspeak.
/Armin
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Byby GC1, thanks for listening me in Teamspeak. :D
/Armin
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Sorry, just could not participate the time due to work issues...
There's 2 launches left, perhaps..
Jeff
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Anybody up for the last Endeavour liftoff Synch-Launch Event?
I'll do a synced launch with STS-100:
Same Pad, Same Orbi-ter, ISS flight, similar time (only 10 days and 68 minutes away).
April 29th will be Friday afternoon or in the night from Friday to Saturday for most of us.
Looking forward to listen some of you on teamspeak to accompany Endeavour on her last flight.
/Armin
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I am actually going to be at Kennedy, so I am out.
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Sorry, I have to fricken work!!!! arrrgggghhh :-X
WinXP -> Win7 migration for the next 2 months!