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Title: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: brad2009a on September 09, 2009, 10:06:55 AM: I decided to take the advice given in the Commander's Reference Manual and looked up the Shuttle Crew Operations Manual. I want to print out the parts that best pertain to SSM 2007 - specifically because I don't have nearly enough ink, paper and money to print the whole thing, despite how much I'd like to.

Any suggestions as to which parts I should focus on and print?
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: Nephi on September 09, 2009, 02:24:19 PM: APU/HYD
GNC
ECLSS

and if you want RMS and PDRS ops
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: brad2009a on September 09, 2009, 04:12:46 PM: Thanks alot. 1109 pages - I wonder if my printer would survive trying to print all of that....

Or if I would survive the wrath of the wife for using all of the required ink (and money) ;D

Of course, I could print it in increments....

Anyway, much appreciated.
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: Admin on September 09, 2009, 04:42:55 PM: Wrath of wife for ink is nothing compared to wrath of wife for white nights in space.

/Admin
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: CapitanPiluso on September 10, 2009, 07:19:18 AM: Quote from: Admin on September 09, 2009, 04:42:55 PM
Wrath of wife for ink is nothing compared to wrath of wife for white nights in space.

/Admin
lol certainly that's right :D
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: Alboita on September 11, 2009, 01:43:29 PM: Hi,
could I ask you where you find the SCOM?
I'm searching around, but I'm unable to find a recent copy of the SCOM.

Thanks
Alberto
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: Pocci on September 12, 2009, 01:29:23 AM: I did not find it either.
I did find it after registration to NASA's L2 group:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com
/Armin
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: Spacewalker on September 12, 2009, 09:18:50 AM: Quote from: Alboita on September 11, 2009, 01:43:29 PM
Hi,
could I ask you where you find the SCOM?

Here you can find the "Systems" part of the SCOM for free:
http://www.shuttlepresskit.com/STS%2D106/scom.htm

Although this is from a somewhat older version of the SCOM, most of the information in there is still valid (and valuable for us simnauts).
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: Huron_Serenity on September 12, 2009, 09:37:12 AM: Quote from: Alboita on September 11, 2009, 01:43:29 PM
Hi,
could I ask you where you find the SCOM?
I'm searching around, but I'm unable to find a recent copy of the SCOM.

Thanks
Alberto

You can also do a Freedom of Information Request for one. That is how I got mine. Takes several weeks to get to you, though, and it comes on a CD, not a printed manual.

NASA is easy to work with for FOIA requests, unless you request photos from a DOD flight, like when I requested photos of the tile inspection from STS-27.
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: Alboita on September 12, 2009, 01:29:20 PM: But FOIA is only for US people??? Or also for foreigns?

Thanks
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: elmarko on September 22, 2009, 10:41:00 PM: Printing out the SCOM is not really something I'd recommend. It's too large. There's a reason it's supplied in PDF format. Copies are retained in a hard-copy format for reference and training I guess, but if you just want something to read on a cold winter's night then you may as well just get an e-book reader or use your laptop.

Or, if you wee ink or crap toner, then you can print it and ignore everything I'm saying.
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: dak4482 on October 03, 2009, 07:23:51 AM: The SCOM is online in its entirety and looks like the latest version at:

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/news/flightdatafiles/.

Look under the heading Generic Flight data files and click on the link -

"+ Shuttle Crew Operations Manual (PDF 41.1 Mb)".

It covers OI-33 which is the latest version I could find ANYWHERE.

Dan
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: chazcozens on October 17, 2009, 03:15:27 PM: Quote
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/news/flightdatafiles/.
That's a very useful site anyway; if you look there's a load of manuals that cover stuff not in the SCOM (I'd particularly recommend the Data Processing System Dictionary and the Controllers' Workbook. The latter is not, as you might think, to do with the ground-based controllers, but instead is to do with using the RHC and THC.

Also if you look at the top of the page and click on the link "Documents from previous shuttle flights" you will find RL checklists for every shuttle mission to date!
Title: Re: What parts of the SCOM should I print out and use?
Post by: sgi on November 23, 2009, 11:57:12 PM: Quote from: brad2009a on September 09, 2009, 04:12:46 PM
Thanks alot. 1109 pages - I wonder if my printer would survive trying to print all of that....

Just a note: my copy (revised 1 August 2008) is 1157 pages... Is it the last copy or are there others?