SSMS2 ?

[Deano]

No progress update in two months, and the "Christmas beta" also seems unlikely... I think I'm just gonna stop checking this forum. The wait is beyond tedious.

I usually only check every year or two. Maybe one day... 


And Merry Christmas everyone.

I'm still checking in periodically to see if there is a release.

[Pappolus]

A very welcome update Admin, thank you very much. The pad is coming along nicely, and despite the FSS and RSS still missing, it looks already more lively compared to SSM07. And those animated T-0 umbilicals will definitely add more to the launch experience. Can't wait to see more 

Pappolus

[Medicmodeler10]

Yes, thank you.  Sure I'm not alone in appreciation of your work, especially given this is a side project.  Thanks again for the update!

[thammond]

Thanks for the update.  The MLP looks great

[vinny002]

Thanks for the update Admin!!

        Cheers,
     Vincent

[Spuky05]

Hi Guys,
The same question, now it’s 2019 and no news?
Is it still in work or ...

[thammond]

Updates are posted in the LATEST NEWS forum section.  The latest update was posted 3-17-19.

[jmorlando]

This has become such a farce. We have to walk on eggs in what we say or else be chastised for not show patience for their efforts.  I’d respect the developers more if they said “hey we tried, sorry it didn’t work out.” The lack of progress, the blown timelines. Come on already and show some respect for the consumers and put it all on the line. This is offensive.

[Medicmodeler10]

Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I understand this to be a side project outside of their actual money-producing and bill-paying jobs.  They have posted updates every few months since December, showing progress.  I would understand frustration more if you/we had pre-purchased the software and were waiting for them to deliver. 

[thammond]

I think you have your right to be critical of the developers just as everyone else has their right to be critical of what you post on here.

I sure hope the developers don't say "hey we tried, sorry it didn't work out" because there is no one else that will do it that I know of.

They have already made a great product and I would love to see what they will come up with in the next version, regardless of how long it takes.

So the developers have my support, FWIW.

[Cygnus]

I've been quietly checking in over the years and waiting patiently as this is a side project and not a full blown gaming/simulation studio project. I had found ssms2007 by accident back in 08. It's been a great sim through 5 or 6 run throughs of all the missions. Wish there were more missions to fly. Let me just say that the hard work put in to '07 paid off. If memory serves me, it was sold in a couple of places other than online? Regardless, it got a decent amount of attention. But...

That was when we had shuttles still flying. This sim really shined when we were able to launch our shuttle at the same time the real thing was lifting off. Once the shuttles were retired, this sim filled a gap for me as I was such a huge fan of the STS. Lately, as I'm just about to launch the last mission and retire this sim for good, I find myself wondering if ssms2 is going to have the same draw because it seems to be a fading memory. Yes, it's going to be a better version but will it still be relevant? I am slightly concerned that as more time passes, all the extra hours and work will be for not....or not much. The interest in the Shuttle over all is waning a bit and when we return to flight in RL, the shuttle system will seem a bit dated. Many years have gone by since the announcement of ssms2010. Too many more years might find a Sim about the Space Shuttle (as we go back to the moon) to be about as interesting as a B-17 flight simulator in the age of the B-2.

This is not a complaint or slight to the Dev(s?). They(you) have had a few setbacks and a loss of a member. My main concern is it is taking too much time and will only be purchased by the few members here.

Perhaps going pro and hiring extra help with a % of the projected sales? Maybe create a gofundme account to pay for more help and blaze a trail to the finish? I realize that there may be obstacles to that approach but I believe that too much more time in development will hurt the project overall with loss of interest.

Continued wishes for good health, success and completion. Thanks again for taking on this major task and your patience with the community.

[Admin]

Hello dear users/fans/haters/followers.

With respect to some comments here we think its about time to try to give our perspective of this whole situation here.

First, in response to  jmorlando who said:

This has become such a farce. We have to walk on eggs in what we say or else be chastised for not show patience for their efforts.  I’d respect the developers more if they said “hey we tried, sorry it didn’t work out.” The lack of progress, the blown timelines. Come on already and show some respect for the consumers and put it all on the line. This is offensive.

First, note that any critics about not having patience comes from other members of the community, never from the Admin/Developer side. You can always say what you think here. (Well, ALMOST anything. )
Second, we really cant see how you can be offended and disrespected by the fact that this project is taking time. Nobody ever forced you to wait for it.
Dont get me wrong, we love to get feedback on things, and we really appreciate that you,our users, keeps supporting the old version by helping new users around and so on.
( Yes, we still gets new customers for the old 2007 version. )   

Next, a little reflection over Cygnus post about the relevance of this sim.
Isnt the reality that we love simulations of old stuff?
A B-17 simulator is cool, WWII fighter, Silent Hunter, Battlefield1942, IL-2 Stumorvik and the list goes on. But in general we get your opinion.

Finally, we have to end this post with the words:
"hey we are still trying, and it will work out."

Regards!

Admin

 

[lawjedi]

We get it, Admin.  And whenever there is a final release, I'm thinking even the angriest of posters will buy it!

And to your point about relevance, someone making the Apollo mission series would be hard not to grab either.

Please work it and turn out as great a product as the original.

[vinny002]

Hi, guys!

I am still here waiting very patiently!!

           Cheers,
        Vincent

[Cygnus]

No anger here. Just pondering. And yes, I'll be here when it's finished. And yes, I might like a B-17 sim or an AH-64 Sim or even an Apollo sim. Hopefully those wouldn't take 10-12+ years to develop. My point was to suggest maybe getting more help and take the load off of those who are developing this as a side project from their real jobs. If the goal is for self satisfaction in the creation or to honor the promise to finish it, I get it and that's fine. No need for updates or even a website for that matter. Just drop it when it's done. If the goal is to create the product for the community that was built, it stands to reason that some of that community might fade away due to the retirement of the shuttles and the long development time of the new sim. I was also trying to hint that if there was a need to hire help that maybe this community might be willing to pitch in with funds. Crowd source this thing over the finish line, ya know? Exciting Simulations should be just that. Nothing exciting about waiting for a product for ten years. Even with the patients of Vinny.