Buran from the dead?

Cthulhus · July 29, 2011, 07:20:34 AM

I think and hope that the STS is not totally "lost" ... We have some hopes ... Lot of people in the US try to make some new flights again till 2017.

Moonwalker · July 29, 2011, 01:06:40 PM

Quote from: Cthulhus on July 29, 2011, 07:20:34 AM
I think and hope that the STS is not totally "lost" ... We have some hopes ... Lot of people in the US try to make some new flights again till 2017.

The infrastructure already is taken down and won't allow another flights. Not even a single one anymore. Discovery already is decommissioned while Endeavour is in the decommissioning process and Atlantis is following now. And the External Tanks are gone. The last one ever produced flew with STS-135 (and if one looks at the latest analyses of the SLS, I think Lockheed Martin won't aver produce something like this again). Thousands of jobs are going to be lost soon. And I think the first string of layoffs already took place.

Following the layoffs, some Astronauts are leaving NASA now because they have nothing more to expect at NASA within their careers...

Admin · July 29, 2011, 01:22:49 PM

Quote from: Moonwalker on July 29, 2011, 01:06:40 PM
Quote from: Cthulhus on July 29, 2011, 07:20:34 AM
I think and hope that the STS is not totally "lost" ... We have some hopes ... Lot of people in the US try to make some new flights again till 2017.

The infrastructure already is taken down and won't allow another flights. Not even a single one anymore. Discovery already is decommissioned while Endeavour is in the decommissioning process and Atlantis is following now. And the External Tanks are gone. The last one ever produced flew with STS-135 (and if one looks at the latest analyses of the SLS, I think Lockheed Martin won't aver produce something like this again). Thousands of jobs are going to be lost soon. And I think the first string of layoffs already took place.

Following the layoffs, some Astronauts are leaving NASA now because they have nothing more to expect at NASA within their careers...

- 1500 jobs were lost at KSC one day after Atlantis landed. 8,000 more to go before 2011 is over.
- Veteran Astros left for better jobs (like Massimino who, I think, works at SpaceX)
- Some veteran Astros stay and new ASCANS are being accepted for ISS jobs.

/Admin

Moonwalker · July 30, 2011, 12:06:39 AM

Thanks for the info admin.

MECO · August 01, 2011, 04:29:02 PM

Quote from: Spaceguy5 on July 28, 2011, 05:51:55 AM
I think I know those PDFs. They used to be on the NASA Human Spaceflight website, but were taken down. You can still access them through the Wayback Machine.

Can you provide the links, quite interested in seeing these...

Spaceguy5 · August 01, 2011, 07:09:44 PM

I don't remember how to get to them (It was pretty tricky in the first place as it isn't cached on a search engine or anything) but I know I posted a link on the forums a few months back.

MECO · August 01, 2011, 10:06:55 PM

I cant see your profile apparently (some forum restriction I guess) so cant see what posts you've made to try and track em down.

Oh well...

Moonwalker · August 01, 2011, 10:27:22 PM

Maybe, if we don't find them, I could load them up to the server of my brother. It's only about 18 MB.

Moonwalker · August 01, 2011, 10:34:05 PM

Well, no need to load it up. You are very lucky. Right after my last post I did a search by simply entering some text passages of one drawing into the google search field, and it worked

É voilà:

http://files.seds.org/pub/images/shuttle/sts-pdf/

Download it as soon as you can. One never knows

I love Google.

Moonwalker · August 01, 2011, 10:39:47 PM

Quote from: Spaceguy5 on August 01, 2011, 07:09:44 PM
I don't remember how to get to them (It was pretty tricky in the first place as it isn't cached on a search engine or anything) but I know I posted a link on the forums a few months back.

You are right obviously. When I did a search I just managed to open the pdf file of the text I entered. I had to change the link in order to access the library.

Spaceguy5 · August 02, 2011, 01:43:46 AM

Yeah that's the set found. Fantastic to see it on a server other than the wayback machine. There's a few more (as well as a few images made from those diagrams) on this website as well scattered around different pages: http://www.columbiassacrifice.com/&0_shttlovrvw.htm

Yossarian1943 · August 02, 2011, 04:09:30 AM

Quote from: Spaceguy5 on August 02, 2011, 01:43:46 AM
Yeah that's the set found. Fantastic to see it on a server other than the wayback machine. There's a few more (as well as a few images made from those diagrams) on this website as well scattered around different pages: http://www.columbiassacrifice.com/&0_shttlovrvw.htm

Cool site, Spaceguy. Lot of stuff to read.

Moonwalker · August 02, 2011, 07:21:15 AM

Quote from: Spaceguy5 on August 02, 2011, 01:43:46 AM
Yeah that's the set found. Fantastic to see it on a server other than the wayback machine. There's a few more (as well as a few images made from those diagrams) on this website as well scattered around different pages: http://www.columbiassacrifice.com/&0_shttlovrvw.htm

Thanks for posting Spaceguy5.

A few of those drawings already are included in the SSM Systems Manual on which I am working at the moment

MECO · August 02, 2011, 07:31:11 AM

Quote from: Moonwalker on August 02, 2011, 07:21:15 AM
Quote from: Spaceguy5 on August 02, 2011, 01:43:46 AM
Yeah that's the set found. Fantastic to see it on a server other than the wayback machine. There's a few more (as well as a few images made from those diagrams) on this website as well scattered around different pages: http://www.columbiassacrifice.com/&0_shttlovrvw.htm

Thanks for posting Spaceguy5.

/signed