Most Difficult Task...

Started by mborgia, May 28, 2009, 08:03:35 PM

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Pocci

This is highly illogic.
First, which forces would rip these parts of the shuttle (and let the ISS be intact to film from within)?
Second, all these ripped of parts flying in a constant distance to the station?
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spaceboy7441

I just meant seeing the Shuttle like that. It could happen. Not likely but it makes me think of Columbia and Challenger
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Dee-Jay

 ::) well, I hope that you never die in SSM2007 ... ;)

Of course we hope that it will never happen but it's a simple special effect, like in a lot of movie (Space cowboy etc...)

jenbuddy

the hardest part of ssm is landing. I have still not landed at all in any of the missions. Completed the mission but can't land.

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Quote from: Dee-Jay on February 18, 2010, 05:42:18 AM
::) well, I hope that you never die in SSM2007 ... ;)

Of course we hope that it will never happen but it's a simple special effect, like in a lot of movie (Space cowboy etc...)

No, we do NOT plan any tragedies in SSM and we hope that life does not prepare some for us before the STS is retired.

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desktopsimmer

I think it was a joke ;)

Way going off topic...
I had a very close call once when my wife threw a rather hefty psychology book, when she wanted me to take out the trash earlier in the day.

Going back on Topic:
On STS-98, I've redone the mission. Rather then doing a quick repositioning of the PMA, I did it slowly and cautiously, only making micro movements. First getting the PMA away from unity module along the long axis of the shuttle. Then spent a good 30min translating it upwards away from the shuttle, until the required height. Finally translating it towards the temporary storage location on the Truss. All this whilst keeping the PMA in the correct attitude. Overall, it took 3, maybe 4 hours, whilst the 'quick way' only took 45mins.

A lot of repect to the RMS operators, the training they must go through, just doing it correctly must take days. Then there is the training for when it goes wrong, which there must be weeks if not months.
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adrians69

Quote from: jenbuddy on February 19, 2010, 04:47:44 AM
the hardest part of ssm is landing. I have still not landed at all in any of the missions. Completed the mission but can't land.

If you have any flight sim experience, it is not much different. Really learn the HUD symbology and the SPEC 50 Horiz Sit display and how to interpret it in the commanders handbook. This also teaches you about energy management which is critical in a craft with no engines. Keep practising just the landing section of missions to gain experience. It's all about the practice!  ;)
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Richard R

I agree practice, practice, and practice.

Richard R
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Spaceguy5

Quote from: jenbuddy on February 19, 2010, 04:47:44 AM
the hardest part of ssm is landing. I have still not landed at all in any of the missions. Completed the mission but can't land.

I used to be like that =p Then I took a month or two break from SSM (I had some bad withdrawals @_@) and when I came back, I got it on my first try >_> My land-crash ratio is getting much better <_<
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mborgia

Make a really good approach, then save the scenario about 5,000 Feet AGL.  Then you can practice the landing over and over again much more quickly.

brad2009a

Quote from: mborgia on July 23, 2010, 12:29:05 AM
Make a really good approach, then save the scenario about 5,000 Feet AGL.  Then you can practice the landing over and over again much more quickly.

That's what I did...works well. My landing attempts are improving.

Augustus

I agree with the others.
I think, STS-98 was the hardest I have completed.
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kbkline

As for landing I had a hard time the first 2 missions. (six attempts on the first and three on the second) After those I've nailed the landing on the other 2 that I've completed. A joystick really makes a difference. Once you have a successful landing, it will get much easier. You know what to expect on the turns and at what angle you should come in on. I only use roll and pitch and it works fine for me.

kbkline

STS 98 (so far). I still haven't been able to grapple the PMA and move it back to Unity...... Got to take a break cause I'm not getting anything in the house done because of this sim!  ;D

sts133

Hi. To me the most difficult task is on every ISS mission, is where I have to move the OBSS to the MPLM survey location. This problem occurred on STS-128 and 130, around half an orbit after docking. The end effector position never changes once I grapple to the OBSS, and the yellow arrow and the RMS attitude position seem to conflict. I tried moving the OBSS to the yellow position, and the attitude values don't match the ones on the message. When I ignored the arrow and I tried to use attitude P/Y/R for the attitude position the OBSS positions very far from the arrow, and this is what plagued me from finishing the mission successfully. I would want to see a video of that kind of operation, either real or on the sim, so that I can copy it and do it correctly.

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